-Zbigniew Brzinski
the US would not permit Ukraine to engage in peace talks with Russia...
I didn’t know we were their mommy, Ukraine.
And of course we won’t let them have peace talks...SOMEBODY’S gotta fight and die to use 100s of Billions in weapons so that the military industrial complex, which Eisenhower warned us of, can continue to get richer.
And how come NO ONE ever brings up the Cuban missile crisis, in which Russia tried to do what NATO is trying to do with Ukraine. Let Russia in our backyard, just like we would be in their backyard if NATO (which is really the US, grow up folks) let Ukraine in.
We would share 1500 miles with Russia. American troops and missiles could and eventually would be put there.
Putin was NEVER gonna let that happen.
Now all of you who are gonna say silly #### like I’m a Putin and Russia loever..whatever. Your opinions are of no consequence to me.
I KNOW WHAT PUTIN IS. He’s an assassin and not a good guy. He misses the old Soviet days and he doesn’t wish us great time ahead. If not an outright anemey before the war, he was no friend, to say the least.
But even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Would we let Russia make a NATO-like treaty with Mexico..with other central American countries?
NO. NO. and NO.
Millions are pouring over our borders..but let’s worry about Ukraine.
Drugs are pouring in from Everywhere...but let’s worry about Ukraine.
We are letting freaks and fairies and all kinds of SICK PC nonsense into our military and non military lives...but let’s worry about Ukraine.
Give me a break.
What is our Strategic Interest there?
It might not be as important an ally as Estonia! Yes, that’s a joke. It’s amazing that we could go to war over a country in eastern Europe that 90 percent of Americans never head of.
Listen, I think it’s great that we let Poland in and some other countries that REAGAN FREED. It was the right thing.
But even The Great One would have his limits on who we let in and why./
If Ukraine didn’t listen to clinton, they’d still have nukes.
If they weren’t so corrupt, the dems wouldn’t be helping them and they wouldn’t still be 3rd world status.
Come on man.
Those of you who know me, know I am NO Putin lover.
those of you who don’t know me...trust me, you will get to.
ciao
“… Millions are pouring over our borders..but let’s worry about Ukraine.
Drugs are pouring in from Everywhere...but let’s worry about Ukraine.
We are letting freaks and fairies and all kinds of SICK PC nonsense into our military and non military lives...but let’s worry about Ukraine.…”
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And LET US WORSHIP ZELENSKY… AND GIVE HIM BILLIONS MORE!
How incredibly pathetic and evil is our national leadership.!
Back are ya?
Good for you.
Best post by you ever, and best post since Ukraine war started.
Good to see you posting!
Hope all is well with you and your family.
Great post. And it’s so good to see you back here, DP!
No, you’re not a Putin lover
But you also do not know Putin, to make this comment
“ I KNOW WHAT PUTIN IS. He’s an assassin and not a good guy. He misses the old Soviet days and he doesn’t wish us great time ahead.”
And not knowing our “enemy” ( or strategic competitor, or rival) is why we are in trouble and headed for greater trouble. A conflict cannot be solved if people don’t know, don’t understand, or won’t accept…what it’s about.
Great post.
Just after the WW2 Tehran Conference, Stalin said to a journalist, (roughly translated):
"It's high time the Slavic race was in charge of Europe."
Never forget that modern-day Muskovite culture is in part derived from the Mongol hordes who over-ran the region in the 13th century. They never really left.
Are we to wait until the Muskovite horde is at the Rhine? Occupying Istanbul? Or Oslo? Are you so poorly read that you don't know how and why the Cold War began? Why NATO had to be formed in the first place?
Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who DO< study history are doomed to stand by watching helplessly while everyone else repeats it. *sigh*
My only issue with you is that Russia already has 4 NATO nations on its border. Ukraine even if it did become part of NATO, which it can’t because of disputed borders clause wouldn’t change that. Your Cuba missile crisis analogy therefore does not hold water. Would be like invading Cuba because it is getting missiles while Mexico already does and is an ally of soviets.
I think that Putin has an historical fear of invasion (though they have an historical past of invading themselves) but that fear is not justified prior to feb 22.
Russia has been trading and prospering with the west, had NATO nations on its border for decades and no invasion and no rumors of invasion.
Prior to putins invasion ukrain was no threat just look how the Donbas conflict was going nowhere.
This is all on Putin and his dreams of a greater Russia, his own words and writings prove that. Perhaps he thought this was his last easy attempt to expand Russia and make things “right” in his mind.
As to west’s involvement in Ukraine corruption and all that. I agree, but the idea that this was some big plan to set the stage to invade Russia IMO is total bs
What would it gain and really what does Russia gain?
Demographics are against Russia, their population is shrinking and this war is accelerating that. Their Soviet inheritance is dwindling, saw where they are pulling T-52s and 55s from boneyard, missile and rocket stocks depleting without the industrial might of soviet union to replenish
Present oil prices even without sanctions and discounts increased shipping costs…. are far below what is needed to find the country even without war expenses. Russian budget calls for 70 a barrel more realistic is 100 but they are nowhere near either.
Bottom line of Russia had not invaded, but kept trading they would have been fine(except for demographic time bomb but invading Ukraine wouldn’t change that). No one was going to attack them well at least not from the west, but now the big winner is China
My prediction, russian federation slowly the quickly devolves into a bloody mess and ceases to exist and China annexes most of eastern russian territories. They have already ordered renaming of Russian cities with Chinese names.
How Ukraine ends up not sure but if this continues it may become the threat it wasn’t prior to putins 2014 and 2022 invasions
Just my 3 cents
Spot-on, save for one omission highlighting the idiocy of the uke supporters:
Putin’s replacement will likely make him look like Gandhi.
-Zbigniew Brzinski
Hi, guy. Welcome back.
This “Putin is an assassin” or “Putin is a killer” deep state talking point is getting really old. It exists to distract from the fact that for the last 50 years, the good ol’ USA has been the world leader in extrajudicial killing beginning with Bush Cheney and reaching its apex with Obama’s kill lists of people inconvenient to the CIA and state department. Due process-free kills in Afghanistan, Yemen and Iraq number in the thousands and it dwarfs anything Putin is dubiously accused of.
14 new nato members since 1991 when we promised them no new members and talked of letting them in
How would we feel
I don’t think Putin believes anything we say anymore
I do believe we stopped the Turkey talks last spring causing Putins SMO and limited invasion to fail to force an agreement
And here we are
We just want Russia to bleed
And use Uke bodies and our stuff to accomplish that
If I were Putin where he is now I’d get more than I would have taken last spring in a deal
And I suspect he will