How CIA and MI6 Created ISIS

Kit Klarenberg ^

[Openurmind]

“first off Osama Bin Laden created Al Queda,”

And we created and trained Bin Laden during our backing of the Taliban against Russia. So indirectly yes we did create Al Queda which fractured off into Isis.

[Wuli]

“And we created and trained Bin Laden during our backing of the Taliban against Russia. “

No. We did not create Bin Laden. He and his Alqueda existed B4 we were aiding Afghan forces against the Soviets. And we did not “train” Bin Laden. We stupidly teamed up with the Pakistani Intelligence services in making the choices of which fighters to get the weapons we were supplying. They did the “vetting”, we did the supplying, and the groups that got the supplies did the fighting. The only training the fighters got from us was how to handle the weapons we supplied. Our mistake was the fighters had their own agendas as to what would result from kicking the Soviets/Russians out. The resulting mayhem in Afghanistan and the usefulness of the experience to the terrorists long war intentions were consequences of what took place, not our intentions.

The Taliban did not come directly out of kicking the Soviets/Russians out. They were created later with the help of the Pakistani Intelligence Services during the civil war mayhem that followed the departure of the Soviets. The stupid Pakistani’s intention was to create a force (Pashtuns) that would solidify Pakistani influence over Afghanistan. They ignored that the force (the Taliban leaders) they were helping to create had its own messianic agenda for power in Afghanistan.

[Openurmind]

No it all splintered off from us supporting the mujahideen. Here is the history:

https://thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghanistan/Afghanistan_CIA_Taliban.html

We didn’t belong there supporting anything at all let alone supplying weapons. Material, training, and advisory support is the same as creating them.

[Wuli]

“We didn’t belong there supporting anything at all let alone supplying weapons. Material, training, and advisory support is the same as creating them.”

It is not the same as “creating” them. They existed, with or without us. They were intent on displacing the Soviets/Russians, with or without us. And many of the groups had their own agendas beyond kicking out the Soviets/Russians, with or without us.

Frankly the Pakistanis together with the Saudis could have done it on their own with only buying the weapons from us, and with the same results.

[minnesota_bound]

The cia looks to be a trouble maker in this world. Always undermining someone or some country, be it a free country or dictatorship.