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Alexei Navalny's body 'is FOUND and shows signs of bruising caused by being held down while suffering convulsions'
Daily Mail ^ | 2/18/24 | Perkin Amalaraj, Will Stewart

Posted on 02/18/2024 6:39:54 AM PST by Libloather

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To: dforest

“healthy way out” = subjugation, occupation, and dismemberment.

Nice talk from someone who claims to be an American conservative. Hmmm…


21 posted on 02/18/2024 8:45:07 AM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: dforest
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.” -Socrates-
22 posted on 02/18/2024 8:47:44 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: dforest; Chad C. Mulligan

Oh yeah, 2020 Chad comes off like another foreigner. These people make things up, twist people’s words, even defend Biden and then become nastier when you call them out for it.

They’re quite angry that most people on FR are opposed to unaudited billions of our tax dollars going to a known money laundering operation.

The Daily Mail is an unreliable tabloid. Of course Navalny was very probably murdered, but zeepers are beclowning themselves, jumping around like lil’ monkeys, going on and on about it. They’re trying to apply more significance to news relative to their foreign countries than is warranted in our own country.


23 posted on 02/18/2024 9:04:12 AM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Apparatchik
Classic whataboutist argument - a mainstay of Russian propaganda.

I agree that whataboutism is integral part of Russian thinking. It is similar to the Western charge of "hypocrisy," but subtly different. Hypocrisy is the concept that "YOU said something is wrong, then YOU did that something YOURSELF." The Whataboutist, on the other hand, uses it in defense: "*I* did something wrong, but YOU did that something YOURSELF." Russians find themselves more often in the position of defense rather than offense on moral questions.
24 posted on 02/18/2024 9:06:43 AM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Apparatchik
“healthy way out” = subjugation, occupation, and dismemberment.

Poles know. Czechs know. Hungarians know. Bulgarians know. Romanians know. Ukrainians know. Georgians know.b Chechens know. Having Moscow as a "friend" means having Moscow's hand on your throat 24/7/365. In the case of Ukraine, it also means cultural genocide. Extinction of your language, your religion, your history. Deportation of adults and children for "re-education" in "Russia". Denial of jobs and even medical care if you haven't obtained a Russian passport.

https://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/24-210-01%20ISW%20Occupation%20playbook.pdf

25 posted on 02/18/2024 9:07:35 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Allegra

I repeat:

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.” -Socrates-


26 posted on 02/18/2024 9:10:44 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Well, insignificance is insignificance, regardless of why.

The wiki about the upcoming election is largely pre 2022 information and propaganda is thus minimized. This guy was truly nobody.

The opponents of Putin, and they DO exist, expose him as a moderate. They are all making the case of his behavior in Ukraine being far too mild.

The reading about United Russia, formed 2001, makes it pretty clear its ideology can be described as Russian Conservatism. They are surprisingly entrepreneurial.


27 posted on 02/18/2024 9:34:23 AM PST by Owen (.)
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To: dforest; MeganC; Apparatchik

>As for this guy, he is just another orc. Right? So who cares?<

Exactly. According to zeeper meganc’s tagline “(Ruzzians aren’t people. )”

She changed it on 2/14/24, after receiving so much flack.

And then we have zeeper Apparatchik’s tagline “(Русские свиньи, идите домой!)” which means Russian pigs, go home!

Zeepers like to dehumanize humans, just like the Nazis.


28 posted on 02/18/2024 9:47:34 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: bimboeruption

If the Russian pigs would go home there’d be no need to them to go home.

Also, it is unfair to tarnish the memory of the Nazis by associating them with Russians. Quite unfair.


29 posted on 02/18/2024 10:20:29 AM PST by MeganC ("the beholder, not the beheld, is the rightful judge of the beheld's public identity")
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To: bimboeruption

Ruzzians aren’t people.


30 posted on 02/18/2024 10:21:34 AM PST by MeganC ("the beholder, not the beheld, is the rightful judge of the beheld's public identity")
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Back in ‘56 some Hungarians started to think for themselves. They got invaded by the Russians.

Back in ‘68 some Czechs and Slovaks started to think for themselves. They got invaded by the Russians.

Back in ‘79 some Afghans started to think for themselves. They got invaded by the Russians.

Back in ‘94 some Chechens started to think for themselves. They got invaded by the Russians.

Back in 2014, some Ukrainians started to think for themselves. Guess what? THEY GOT INVADED BY THE RUSSIANS.


31 posted on 02/18/2024 10:23:37 AM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

It’s worse with the clowns on this and other FR threads. They defend Putin’s barbarity by saying something bad that Biden did, like locking up J6ers or leaving the border open, as if I support that, too. Clearly I don’t, nor does any other FReeper that I know of.

But they persist in this game of trying to somehow score points by mocking the US or declaring us to be supporters of “globohomo”. We stand for freedom and sovereignty and they know they cannot defend invasion and brutality, so they turn to silly mockery, name-calling, false accusations and lies about who we are, or using whataboutist tactics to change the subject. They are, in a word, pathetic.


32 posted on 02/18/2024 10:32:40 AM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: tlozo

Get back to us when you give a damn about American citizens like Gonzalo Lira being beaten and murdered by a Ukrainian government we’re funding.


33 posted on 02/18/2024 10:39:12 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Libloather

“Alexei Navalny’s body reportedly shows signs of bruising that were caused by being held down while he suffered a seizure, raising fears that he was killed on the orders of Vladimir Putin. “

An example of an author making a conclusion that is not evidenced by the first half of the sentence.

It is one of the sneaky techniques used by ‘reporters’ and others in the mass media to MISDIRECT the public.


34 posted on 02/18/2024 11:45:58 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370)
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To: Libloather

Well, the murder of Sergei Magnitzky resulted in passage of legislation that John Kerry OPPOSED.
In any case, Jeffrey Epstein and this Navalny dude were apparently unable to trust CIA to keep them safe/alive.


35 posted on 02/18/2024 11:49:14 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: MeganC; dforest
>Ruzzians aren’t people.<

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HEIL MEGGIEZZZ!

36 posted on 02/18/2024 11:50:06 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Apparatchik

Heard he was plotting to overthrow the government with the help of the CIA. If that’s the case then its no surprise he got whacked.


37 posted on 02/18/2024 12:46:34 PM PST by JoeRender
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; dforest
I repeat: “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.” -Socrates-

Exactly, Chad.

“@apparatchik: dforest is so obsessed with defending Moscow that he failed to see (or ignored) the /sarc tag on your post. Or maybe English is his second language? No humor in these people; all they can think about is blind attack, like the legendary berserkers. 16 posted on 2/18/2024, 10:24:55 AM by Chad C. Mulligan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies | Report Abuse]

38 posted on 02/18/2024 1:19:55 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Libloather
“according to independent outlet Novaya Gazeta Europe. “

Aren't they associated with the CIA.

39 posted on 02/18/2024 1:29:09 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Kazan

Murdered with pneumonia?


40 posted on 02/18/2024 1:51:11 PM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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