Posted on 05/01/2024 5:45:30 PM PDT by hardspunned
Namely China.
You view yourself as intelligent, but in reality you follow the criminals & crooks who are determined to destroy this nation, while trashing real patriots that care about this nation which is in extreme danger of falling into becoming yet another totalitarian regime of evil, because you believe you are righteous for wanting to protect Ukraine from Russia.
Instead they are pulling the wool over your eyes with their utter deceit.
No one is capable of talking sense into your head, because you buy into the notion that we are good, which we are, but that doesn't mean we do not have bad actors in our nation, because we do.
Open your eyes, and see what these Democrats & their Uni-party compatriot RINOs have done to our nation.
You are most likely full of good intentions, however, the road to hades is paved with "good intentions".
Start seeing them as the criminals & crooks that they are, whose only goal is to enrich themselves with both money & power. That is what they had hoped this proxy war with Russia would provide. More money & power for them, but poverty & slavery for the rest. You & the stupid amongst us have delivered yet again, with more money to other nations while our nation falls further into disrepair & debt.
If you were really as smart as you believe yourself to be, no one would have to tell you what you force us into telling you. You would have seen the reality for yourself, but you continue to reject the narrative. Perhaps it's easier to think we are bad, rather then to admit that you are being duped & used as useful idiots.
Quit being their Pavlov dogs that are triggered by the word Russia. It's not that Russia is necessarily good, it's they use Russia's history, in the form of the now defunct USSR, to make you react as you do without any thought whatsoever.
Even as bad as the USSR was, and it was very bad, we still had the sense to use them to defeat a potentially worse bad actor in the form of Hitler & his Nazi movement.
That is why they demean us as being Nazi's & Trump as Hitler because they both had nationalist interests at the start. But Hitler wanted to be a bigger player than just the person who saved his nation. We will not allow Trump to go there, and I personally doubt he wants to go there. His only goal is to save this nation. That alone benefits the world, because without this nation in the world, the world will descend into a totalitarian world.
But Trump is just the tool that stood up to confront the totalitarian element that has been chipping away at what this nation stood for & was founded upon. But projection is the weapon they have used for decades to divide the people of this nation. In other words, they call their opponents, and accuse them of doing, what they are & what they are doing.
Wake up MeganC. They have turned our nation into a sh!t-hole. We desire to return her to being the beacon on the hill for all of mankind.
Not a single one of us likes the role we have been forced into, because we are fighting for good, and you are supporting evil without even realizing that you are. Join us in the fight to save this nation.
Our nation is the real target here, and you are actually helping for it to be captured & destroyed from becoming as our founders envisioned as their creation would someday become. It was an ambitious vision born in the belief of a creator. The creator knew that making the world for life had it's difficult road, just as the framers of this nation knew that the nation they were creating would also have a difficult road to become the nation they envisioned.
Let's join forces & do it for the founders & the creator also.
May the good Lord see fit to bless this nation & this movement.
Either that or you fools do not realize what is the real target, because you lack the brain-power to see what the reality is. we are the target, not Ukraine. We are also being targeted from within.
Even with all the evidence that plays out on a nightly basis with the rule of law being tossed aside. With criminals being set free to do more criminal mischief, while good people are being demonized & terrorized by the lawfare.
Both of you, and the rest of your Zeeper "intellects" had better start waking up to reality. Otherwise, you will wake up one day with a reality you never saw coming because you all think you are righteous, when in fact you are useful idiots.
The article lays out in great detail what all of us have been trying, unsuccessfully, to make you see. You had better get rid of Macron in France, he's not working for the interests of the people. Yet you fail to see that even though that has been playing out nightly for even longer than it has been playing out in the US.
None so blind as those who refuse to see.
So you cannot or will not say anything nice about America and you will not or cannot say anything patriotic in favor of America.
You folks who adamantly support Russia are uniformly incapable of articulating simple things you appreciate about The United States of America. In your case you even wrote some thousand words trying to dodge or evade my simple question.
You are offended that I question your patriotism when you give me no reason to believe otherwise.
I have no difficulty stating the things I love about America. The Constitution. Our flag. Brave Americans who protect our country. Apple pie. Hot dogs. The 1957 Chevy Bel Air. Free Republic.
See? For me that’s no big challenge. For you it apparently is.
We are not on a Democrat or liberal forum here. That means you don’t just get to identify as patriotic when it suits you. And whether or not you are patriotic is a matter for other people to perceive and not for you to define.
In short, don’t tell me how patriotic you are.
Show me.
“Indeed. The pro-Russian side”
Yes. That’s what it is. They pretend it’s about Biden when he just happens to be the occupant of the White House at the time, and ignore that Trump when he was President supported the independence of Ukraine and would not have countenanced Putin’s invasion.
They rail about “corruption” in Ukraine and ignore how much worse such corruption is in Russia UNDER Putin. They pretend that Putin the murderer is some sort of “savior” to Christianity. Puhleeeeeeeeze!!!!
If I didn't love this nation, I wouldn't be an America first individual. But of course connecting the dots is not your personal forte is it. You are more in tune with grammar. Real intelligence escapes your otherwise, pea-sized brain.
It's my love for this nation that compels me to speak out about bad leaders of this nation who are criminals, and most likely are communists. It's my belief in the Lord that compels me to speak out against evil committed by the country I love, because for me the country is far more important than criminal evil leaders of my nation.
It's a shame you do not have the same moral character structure apparently. For crimes committed by our leaders, but overlooked & dismissed, is a sure sign or moral depravity.
“It’s my love for this nation”
Great.
Then this is a small request that you simply let me know what you love about America. I’m sure your list is different from mine which is why I am interested.
Megan
Just like I have said all along; no one can provide evidence that you are wrong with your support for Ukraine, because ignorance can never admit their ignorance.
Robert,
You inserted yourself into this discussion saying you objected to the assertion that *you* are unpatriotic when I never named you at all.
Three times now I have invited you to let me know of something you love about America and three times now you’ve evaded the question instead responding with insults and statements that are not at all germane to the question.
I’d like to offer you yet a fourth opportunity to inform me of at least a few of the things you love about America since you are so adamant that you do indeed love America.
Respectfully,
Megan
You have before. Matter of fact I mentioned that both my grandfather & father fought in WWII Grandfather in Germany, Dad in Italy. Your response was that you were unimpressed.
“You have before.”
So this was settled between us and for some strange reason you felt a desire to bring it up again?
Whatever floats your boat.
So far as I am concerned this discussion between us is now closed. Going forward if I have any questions about anyone else it does not include you and you do not need to insert yourself into that particular discussion.
Thanks.
Furthermore, you are supporting the theft of the 2020 election. Sometimes you even pretend to be a Trump supporter, but you might as well drop that scam.
Because what you really are is a marvelous parasitic louse.
“I brought up information that confirms what I have been saying, that you Zeepers refuse to accept is the truth. I guess you are just a warmonger at heart. But don’t try to pretend you are helping Ukraine, because you are destroying Ukraine while ignoring the destruction of our nation.”
No, Robert. You did not.
Here is your post from yesterday where this discussion between us commenced:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4235035/posts
(Post #18)
“To: USA-FRANCE; MeganC
Exactly what many of us have been trying to tell you Zelenskyy/Ukraine cheerleaders, as you called us insulting names questioning our patriotism.
Rad & learn you useful idiots. You’re the puppets of those trying to destroy this nation of ours. Quit being their puppets that dance to their lies & propaganda.
18 posted on 5/1/2024, 7:41:59 PM by Robert DeLong”
Again, so far as I am concerned the concern you brought up in that post was needless and per your comments today the issue had actually been settled before you brought it up again.
I am content to let it go at that and will not respond to you any further on the matter.
The main article posted is what I brought up for you to see that it makes the same arguments I have made all along. But apparently you didn't read a lick of it, for if you had you wouldn't have made the response highlighted above.
So, your retort back was as incorrect as your retort that I never say anything positive about the US. I am more pro the US, than you are apparently, because you are supporting the killing fields of Ukraine. You keep supporting sending more & more of our money to Ukraine, which in turn keeps supporting the usurper in the White House who stole the 2020 election.
You might as well not respond, because you really can't support your position from a state of logic, for all you have is the emotional position.
“You might as well not respond”
You’re the best, thank you! :-)
“...we are the target, not Ukraine. We are also being targeted from within...”
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Well I agree to some degree here. Let me explain, just in case.
Russia is indeed using Ukraine as a springboard in order to take half of Europe, again. Moscow wants its “Warsaw Pact” countries back. I’m happy you realize that now. Russia needs Ukraine as a tool for its expanded imperialist policies.
The intent of the Kremlinists is to use Ukraine’s massive natural resources in order to prepare its second step against Europe, and thereafter eliminate America’s influence and economical interests in Europe once and for all.
It’s the “Great Replacement” policy. The East replacing the West.
Neosovietism, Iranian-style Islamism, and communism would become “Great Again”, if Russia succeeds. The economical repercussions on America would be severe. We don’t want that do we?
Thus, as you said, Europe is the true final target, while America will be the true indirect target - subverted from within by Russia and their communist Chinese “friends of circumstance”. (China’s TikTok is a formidable tool to subvert America). May it be banned!
Yes, America is already targeted from within... by Russia and their Chinese friends.. And by Russia’s number one islamic ally : IRAN. Just look what they have done to many of our universities and campuses, they are now imploding with violence against good American citizens. The Russian Alliance has resurrected their old “Subverting America” program...
You are partly convinced now... but that’s not enough.
You may want to read this:
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SNIP:
“On the founding of our nation’s 245th birthday, it would be nice to set our eyes on the window displaying blue skies. But out on another window displays storm clouds. Montpelier’s decision to cancel any meaningful Fourth-of-July recognition along with our schools and our very own government promoting Critical Race Theory (CRT) and Black Lives Matter (BLM) tells us all we need to know about these ominous clouds. Both these movements are Marxist in origin. With CRT being a derivative of the German Marxist Frankfurt School and member Max Horkheimer’s 1937 essay titled ‘Traditional and Critical Theory’ and one BLM founder on record stating that they are trained Marxists.
Communism’s 45 goals were read into the Congressional Record by Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr., (D-Florida), in 1963. These goals were gleaned from the testimony given to Congress by scholars and from the writings of current or former Communists.
Socialism is seen as the bridge between Capitalism and Communism. The major difference between Socialism and Communism is in the method of takeover. Socialism (and Progressivism) believes that it can centralize all control of the individual, land and industry by peaceful, but gradual, legislation; whereas Communism seeks a violent and final confrontation to eliminate all dissension to achieve its Utopian goal of a Stateless and Classless society.
But make no mistake; what is the same in all three ideologies is the desire to seize monolithic control of society. Mussolini termed this the Totalitarian Society: “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”
In order to get a better understanding of our storm clouds, let’s exam a few of the 45 Communist, and by extension Socialist and Progressive, goals that have been read into our Congressional Record:
SOME OF THE POINTS:
Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
Get control of the schools and teachers’ associations. Soften the curriculum.
Gain control of all student newspapers.
Infiltrate the press.
Gain control of key positions in radio, TV and pictures.
Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and press.
Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in the media.
Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, and healthy.”
Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principal of “separation of church and state.”
Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate and old-fashioned.
Discredit the American founding fathers as selfish aristocrats [and racists].
Belittle American culture and discourage the teaching of American history.
Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
Infiltrate and gain control of big business and unions.
Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies.
Treat all behavioral problems as mental health or social problems.
Discredit the family as an institution.
Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.
Repeal the Connally Reservation, allowing the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.”
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Here is the whole thing:
https://www.ethanallen.org/45_communist_goals_from_58_years_ago
As a final word.. :
Let’s become patriotic again.
Lets defend ourselves against our historical enemies again.
Lets make America Great Again.
Freedom First.
Well I agree to some degree here. Let me explain, just in case. Russia is indeed using Ukraine as a springboard in order to take half of Europe, again. Moscow wants its “Warsaw Pact” countries back. I’m happy you realize that now. Russia needs Ukraine as a tool for its expanded imperialist policies.
You are not a very astute person. That claim is utter BS, and there is nothing you can bring to this discussion that even remotely supports that claim. Bringing up past history of the former USSR is not a valid argument for many reasons, such as the people that created the USSR, and the control they amassed. Putin is not Stalin, & Russia is nowhere near being the USSR.
Both Russia's Putin and Ukraine's Zelenskyy had agreed to a peace agreement where Putin promised to return the landmass that Russia controlled would be returned to Ukraine, except for the Crimea, which Putin said is too important for Russia's national security. This whole conflict is not about Russia increasing it's landmass, it's all about protecting Russia's national security which has been under assault with the continued expansion of NATO. That expansion of NATO into Ukraine was the only thing Putin was asking of Zelenskyy, to remain neutral like the USSR had asked Sweden, Norway, & Denmark, to remain neutral in WWII. The USSR even respected them after the end of the war. Yes, I will admit that Norway & Denmark's neutrality was in name only for the most part.
This was no different than our response in the early 60s when the USSR's Nikita Khrushchev tried to place nuclear weapons 90 miles off of the coast Florida in Cuba. We reacted which prompted Russia to react. Fortunately, levels heads prevailed and nuclear weapons were not used, let alone placed that near to us. But just as we felt threatened, so did Russia with NATO's expansion. Putin even stated, in 2008, that both Georgia & Ukraine were red lines as far as Putin was concerned.
Had we allowed the two leaders to work their issues out, then a lot of people on both sides would be alive today. As I have said many times already, they (US, UK & NATO) didn't want a peaceful resolution to occur. They wanted a proxy war, with Ukraine being the battlefield, and the Ukrainian males the military on the battlefield.
This has actually made the entire world a far more dangerous one.
That's because the totalitarian nations have created a much tighter embrace with each other than they have historically.
Our nation is 35 trillion, in debt & he EU is not much better off. Both our nation & the EU are seeing declining economies. Both have also spent money on keeping Ukraine afloat. So, this conflict has taken its toll upon NATO nations that have propped up this conflict, and the sad part is that it was all unnecessary. Had we just not gotten involved, none of this would have taken place.
The intent of the Kremlinists is to use Ukraine’s massive natural resources in order to prepare its second step against Europe, and thereafter eliminate America’s influence and economical interests in Europe once and for all.
So, your plan was to weaken the EU even further? That is all this has done, is weakened the EU, along with weakening the US.
Robert Gates who was Sec. of Defense in Obama's administration, said that Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy throughout his entire political career. All saw what he did with Afghanistan, yet you all followed him with the statement that Putin had designs on all of Europe?
You people are all so gullible, it frightens me to think that you people actually vote. If you can't see that Biden is an incompetent fool, then you all probably need to be barred from the voting booths. Considering how incompetent many of the leaders of European nations are there's a lot of supporting evidence for my statement.
It’s the “Great Replacement” policy. The East replacing the West. Neosovietism, Iranian-style Islamism, and communism would become “Great Again”, if Russia succeeds. The economical repercussions on America would be severe. We don’t want that do we?
Well, the first part of your statement was right on target. Problem is though, that the great replacement policy is not the plan of the communist nations, it's the brainchild of the elites who desire to rule the world with a One World Government, and yes they are just as big on totalitarianism as are the existing totalitarians on this planet. So, you got the policy correct, you just aren't astute enough to see who is really running that operation.
What do you think I keep telling you all to wake up about? It's not the outside players, it's the ones from within that are our real threat, but you people will not see that to the determent of everyone, including yourselves. This is a real conspiracy, it's not some kooky theory, but we have all been conditioned by the CIA to dismiss conspiracies as being the ramblings of people who are not quite all there. But conspiracies abound, and there are laws to combat conspiracies. However, when those running the conspiracy are at the levers of power, who is going to stop them? That falls upon the people, and for the people to unite they must first accept that the conspiracy is real. If they don't then they will fall victim to that conspiracy.
Oh, I know because I said the same things many times myself over the last 20 years, but when you start seeing it unfolding before your very eyes, then you need to come into reality & understand that it is possible, because it is happening.
It started with Covid which was a dry run to see how far societies had devolved in giving up their freedoms for security, and sadly enough, many have failed. In fact, many still believe that Covid is a serious virus, and that the Covid "vaccines" work as promoted.
That facilitated the coup d'état for the theft of the 2020 election, as well as, the the 2022 midterm election. It also helped keep certain leaders who are integral parts of the conspiracy in place. You see it doesn't really require many leaders, just key leaders that help with the destruction of their countries. Which then clears the path for the totalitarian leaders who already exist in the world. Along with the new ones itching to possess that kind of power.
For power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
May the good Lord enter into all of you to awaken you to what is really happening.
I had this discussion with two other people 20 years ago. One was a policeman, and the other was an airline pilot who had flown in Vietnam. The only difference, I was like all of you then. I dismissed it as nonsense, for the same reasons that many of you dismiss it now. It's impossible, the conspiracy would have to be too big, yada, yada, yada, just as I am sure many of you are saying to yourselves reading this.
Perhaps that discussion has enabled me to see it unfolding as they had stated, though they were at a higher level and the details were scarce. But the details are much clearer now, if you will just start looking. They have stepped up their timetable because, Trump interrupted their previous timetable. That is why they are willing to do anything to keep Trump from becoming our 47th president.
Pay attention, quit sleepwalking through this. That is what I am saying when I say that Ukraine is the distraction. The US is the target. What do you think all of this mass illegal immigration into the US is about, and it's being facilitated by the Biden Administration? It's to weaken the cohesiveness of the nation even further. Their plan has been to weaken the cohesiveness of the US for decades now, this is not a fast moving conspiracy, it has been a slow methodical march through all of our institutions, which they got from the communists and adopted as part of their grand scheme. For decades they have been pitting men against women, blacks against whites, ethnicities against ethnicities. Gays against straights, religion against religion, and whatever else they could think of to divide people. It serves two distinct purposes, it keeps them from joining together, and it creates more chaos which results in more conflict.
I mean look what they have done to us with this conflict, you all started out by calling us names because we would not support this conflict, which in turn made us call you all names, because that is all part of the distraction game. well, I am ending that as far as I am concerned, you all either wake up and realize what is going on, or you live with the results. It's your choice from here on out as far as I am concerned. I do not have long for this world, by my estimation, but then again I never thought I would have lasted this long. But here I still am. I guess the Lord is keeping my alive for some reason, & by all accounts I can only assume that it is to wake slumbering people that our current administration is pure evil, and many of the allied nations of WWII also have evil administrations running their countries as well.
Yes, America is already targeted from within... by Russia and their Chinese friends.. And by Russia’s number one islamic ally : IRAN. Just look what they have done to many of our universities and campuses, they are now imploding with violence against good American citizens. The Russian Alliance has resurrected their old “Subverting America” program.
Well, I actually addressed who is really using this program, and I already acknowledged that those who are subverting my nation are just as ruthless as any of the totalitarians that we all recognized as dangerous actors. What you have failed to realize is that Macron is also one of them, as is Biden, as is Trudeau, as was Merkle and now Scholz, even Giorgia Meloni seems to have pulled the wool over many people's eyes in Italy & beyond. I could go on, but you get the picture.
You will get a better view of the picture if you just open your eyes and see the reality, not the picture they are presenting to you, which is all a lie.
“On the founding of our nation’s 245th birthday, it would be nice to set our eyes on the window displaying blue skies. But out on another window displays storm clouds. Montpelier’s decision to cancel any meaningful Fourth-of-July recognition along with our schools and our very own government promoting Critical Race Theory (CRT) and Black Lives Matter (BLM) tells us all we need to know about these ominous clouds. Both these movements are Marxist in origin. With CRT being a derivative of the German Marxist Frankfurt School and member Max Horkheimer’s 1937 essay titled ‘Traditional and Critical Theory’ and one BLM founder on record stating that they are trained Marxists
That only works in the movies where a script is followed. Problem is those running the production unit have a different script they are following. Do you think perhaps Hitler told others to spread the same kind of happy thoughts to the general population back in the 30s? I know his minions used violence, like well: BLM, Antifa and other organizations today do the same here. Is that who you are really working for? Do you think that Trump is our Hitler as do they?
Yes, they have captured both political party's controls, and they have been working pedal to the metal to destroy this nation from within while enriching themselves. They learned the teaching of the communist well, haven't they.
So, since we both agree now that America is the real prize, because once it has been completely captured, there is nothing to stop them from taking the world. Problem with their thinking is that even with success failure awaits them around the corner when the infighting amongst them to see who holds the largest share of that power begins to rear its ugly head, which it will without question.
So, do you want another stab at trying to convince me that Ukraine is not just a distraction as I originally said?
Because quite frankly you have only succeeded in bolstering my case, which I know wasn't your intention.
Give what we both have said some thought. If you do, then you have to accept that I am correct, that our involvement helps no one, especially Ukraine. In fact, it negatively impacts the entire world by jeopardizing freedom itself. First off rethink who are enemies really are. It's communism, but it's not Russia. They have a lot of nuclear weapons, but using them is a final sum game where no one wins, and Putin is aware of that. It's the communism from within. Many of them are Americans too.
I could & should bring up Senator Joseph McCarthy who saw communists all around him. No one believed him then, and he was an important man. I am a nobody. I'm not a gifted speaker or debater so it's very easy to dismiss me. But hey, at least I tried, just like Joe McCarthy did back in the day. BTW, I had his granddaughter as my history teacher. I wish I had paid more attention to history back then. She didn't fail me, I failed her, though she probably should have failed me. 😋
Thanks for your extensive answer.
First of all let me tell you where we agree.
America is indeed Russia’s ultimate target, but the secondary targets in Europe are nevertheless important as well. Russia can’t scratch America without hurting Europe first.
Secondly, we also agree on the symptoms hurting America, right now as we speak. I previously mentioned 18 of the 45 Communist goals to disintegrate America from within. Its ongoing now: CRT, the breakdown of cultural and moral standards, the partly hijacked Democrat and Republican parties: Russia is utilizing naïve and unwitting “far right” gullibles like Gaetz, making them believe that supporting Ukraine is a “lefty thing” to do. Russia is effectively converting a number of supposedly “true conservatives” into Hanoi Janes and 1970’s Hippies…
Likewise, Russia is using the “far left” gullibles (the Squad and others) as they are being converted into Jew-hating / Hamas-loving fanatics (Hamas being part of the Russia-Iran Alliance by the way… so convenient…). Some of our campuses look like Hamas HQ’s these days. It’s an abomination.
I will also never forget how mainstream media applauded the ANTIFA riots which destroyed 110 US inner-cities. They were all unwittingly tricked by the communist Anti America 45-point plan.
You and I agree that that plan is indeed being implemented.
But we seem to disagree on WHO has resurrected that plan. To me it’s clear. Everything points to the kremlin, supported by their communist Chinese friends. We have all been tricked into believing that it was a natural American evolutive process of society… Well not at all! It’s a devious trap, and we have partly fallen for it.
(Anecdote: most of the Fentanyl massacring Americans, comes from Russia’s ally “China” by the way.)
Here we don’t agree:
You told me my claim about Russia wanting its “Warsaw Pact” countries back is BS… Well it’s not BS at all, unfortunately. Proof: Russia has already stolen / taken back Crimea, and 4 entire regions on mainland Ukraine, and 20% of Georgia, and a distinct part of Moldova. It seems that Russia will do something bad against Armenia as well… Russia is also examining whether the Soviet Union “acted legally” when it recognized the Baltic states’ independence in 1991… ! You understand what such a move means right?
And I’m not even talking about the Russian State TV, and their daily nuclear annihilation threats against America, France, UK and Poland and their crazy ideas about Alaska…
The Kremlin is run by pro-soviet people who remained silent, like a sleeping cell, during a number of years right after Russia’s liberation from communism in 1991. They may not be communist today (albeit all their friendly nations are) but they have remained truly pro-soviet when it comes to the use of Big Government principles and the way they clamp down on their own citizens. Using Gulags, poisoning, mockery elections without political opponents (they have all been assassinated, like Navalny).
According to the corruption index, Russia is way more corrupt than Ukraine, but still… some supposed (ill-informed) Republicans only blame Ukraine’s corruption, giving a pass on denouncing Russia’s corruption. Crazy!
Here is the CORRUPTION PERCEPTIONS INDEX for nations of interest:
Denmark: 1 (Excellent! The least corrupt nation of the planet)
France: 20 (good)
USA : 24 (good)
China : 76 (bad)
Ukraine: 104 (bad)
Russia: 141 (catastrophic)
Iran: 149 (catastrophic)
North Korea : 172 (Hell, doomed, and beyond repair)
Venezuela : 177 (Hell, doomed, and beyond repair)
Then you said :
“Both Russia’s Putin and Ukraine’s Zelenskyy had agreed to a peace agreement where Putin promised to return the landmass that Russia controlled would be returned to Ukraine, except for the Crimea…”
My answer:
No. It wasn’t a “peace agreement”, it actually was an attempt for a cease-fire agreement. That is very different.
Then how on earth could anyone agree to letting a huge chunk of one’s country to a thief who stole it in the first place. That is New York pro criminal style policies, letting the crooks out of prisons, appease them, so they can continue their mischiefs all over the place, making life for regular citizens a living hell.
Further:
Imagine if Mexico suddenly invaded and annexed Texas, and then said, “hey, let’s sign a peace deal with Washington now.. but we keep Texas of course.” Don’t you see how bombastically crazy that sounds? Well, that is exactly what they wanted to push down Ukraine’s throat! You do realize how doomed Russia’s so-called “peace-plan” for Ukraine is now.
Then you mentioned NATO’s “expansion”…
Well let me tell you this… Look what happened to those nations which DIDN’T join NATO in time… like Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia… they are ALL already invaded by Russia! The fact that the other European nation got into NATO in time is the SOLE reason they are still living in freedom right now. You know this.
NATO is protecting them from the permanent Russian warmongering, imperialism, land-grabbing, war of attrition, and proxy wars (like the Russia created HAMAS-IRAN-ISRAEL war).
Putin ‘forming axis of terror’ as he welcomes Hamas and Iran to Moscow
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/26/putin-forming-axis-of-terror-welcomes-hamas-iran-moscow/
Then you talked about the US 35 trillion debt, and the EU’s.
Yes, it’s a problem. But there are sacrifices we just can’t accept. Because if we do it would literally destroy our economy once and for all.
If Ukraine is truly great for Russia economically (indeed, Russia YEARNS for Ukraine, right?)… then why wouldn’t it be interesting for America to deal with Ukraine as well then? Ukraine has Europe’s vastest natural resources, including uranium. We can do business with them, it would be great for both of our economies.
America doesn’t annex countries like Russia does all the time... We do business instead, we do deals with our partners. It’s an exchange. Smart capitalism is a peaceful process.
All the best.
RE: Russia’s land grabs:
All you need to know about the why is simple: as the Russian say, their borders stop where they say they do.
Its no more complicated than that.
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