Posted on 03/27/2005 3:07:26 PM PST by CitizenM
Just announced:
Just announced on FOX. 6 p.m. They have given Terri the Sacrament of Communion. News reporter is saying that this is the first request that has been granted. True. However, I recall that Judge Greer said he would permit it, when death was imminent. So, I am concerned we might get some additional news. Pray for Terri's soul to be blessed and held in God's loving hands.
Good post. But don't fool yourself. 'annyokie' has her mind made up and has no interest in the *facts*. Her sole interest in all this is to be a sh*t disturber.
She had extensive therapy in the early going, when it was likeliest to do any good. It didn't. That included swallow therapy. Do you think they feed people with a feeding tube for the hell of it?
Yea right excuses are like arseholes everbody got one 15 years and a couple months therapy she should have had thereapy the whole time ..
And it shouldn't be up to a judge to put a non terminal patient to death even a terminal patient for that matter !
Maybe you have spent to much time with people justifying their actions.
I work with the brain damaged and Terri was better off then some of the wonderful people I have had the pleasure of caring for before the death camps got themselves died up in her life.
Meanwhile, Mr. Schindler pulled the plug on his mother. I suppose he is not a monster for doing so.
What does WPPFF mean? (Thanks)
Confess to? Wow. Sounds like it's a crime.
Michael did it to both his parents.
Whoopsie...Mr. Schindler did it to his mother...
Seems to me that you could just as easily argue that Mr. Schindler is "trying to make up for rough behaviour with his daughter" (that perhaps led to her bulimia and was exhibited with his poking her in the head and gruffly berating her on the videotape). Perhaps he's "trying to overcome the guilt of pulling the plug on his mother"...
Gee....armchair pysch is easy and fun...no wonder so many have come out of the woodwork!
It's more fun than just admitting that meddling in marriages is nasty business for the government, and perhaps husband and wife share things that parents don't know.
(I thank the Lord I have never faced that dilemma myself.)
Me too. I hope you never do...it's very difficult and I would never wish it upon anyone. That's why a living will/advance directive, etc., as appropriate, are vital for anyone who is considerate of those left behind.
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Matthew 25:44-45
44 Then they also [in their turn] will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?
45 And He will reply to them, Solemnly I declare to you, in so far as you failed to do it for the least [in the estimation of men] of these, you failed to do it for Me.
I'm very happy to hear that Terri was granted communion.
Maybe you can convince me that he is a nut job.
Terri Schiavo receives the sacraments on an emotional Easter
Associated Press 03/28/05
PINELLAS PARK - Terri Schiavo was given last rites and Easter communion -- a drop of wine, but no bread -- as relatives of the brain-damaged woman asked protesters gathered outside her hospice to tone down their behavior.
Neither Schiavo's parents nor her husband offered new, specific details on her condition, but one of the two priests who visited her hospital room said the brain-damaged woman's "death is imminent" -- a devastating proclamation for those who spent Easter Sunday praying for a woman they never knew.
"We are Terri's voice. Right now, Terri is fighting for her life," the Rev. Patrick Mahoney angrily shouted Sunday, his face reddening. He pledged to protest outside the White House on Monday.
Schiavo's mother, Mary Schindler, did not visit her daughter on Easter, emotions keeping her from the hospice for the first time since Terri's feeding tube was pulled 10 days ago, said Paul O'Donnell, a Roman Catholic Franciscan monk and a family spokesman.
"If she goes in there again, we might have to take her to the hospital," O'Donnell said.
But the woman's parents claimed one Easter victory: Terri received communion wine after her husband allowed her to receive the sacrament.
As her brother, sister and brother-in-law looked on, the Rev. Thaddeus Malanowski held Terri's right hand as he and hospice priest Rev. Joseph Braun placed the droplet on her tongue. Malanowski also anointed her with holy oil, offered a blessing and absolved her of sin.
"She received the blood of Christ," said Malanowski, adding he could not give her a fleck of communion bread because her tongue was too dry.
By previous court order, Terri Schiavo was allowed to receive communion once more with the consent of her husband and guardian, Michael Schiavo, who has fought her parents for years about whether the woman would want to live or die. Terri received both sacraments on March 18, just before the tube was pulled.
Tensions were noticeably heightened both among the protesters and, apparently, among the closest confidants to the woman's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler. David Gibbs III, their lead lawyer, told CBS' "Face the Nation" that Schiavo has "passed where physically she would be able to recover."
"In the family's opinion, that is absolutely not true," spokesman Randall Terry said outside the hospice.
The Schindler family, also bothered by repeated arrests and heightened angst outside the hospice, pleaded with supporters to tone down their behavior. They had little success; five people were arrested and chants of "Give Terri water!" echoed for much of the day.
Fewer than 10 protesters stayed overnight Monday in the rain and wind. One man was arrested before dawn trying to bring a jug of water to Schiavo.
Doctors have said Terri Schiavo, 41, would probably die within a week or two once the feeding tube -- which kept her alive for 15 years -- was disconnected. She relied on the tube since suffering catastrophic brain damage when her heart stopped beating and oxygen was cut off to her brain.
At Michael Schiavo's Clearwater home, protesters dropped roses and Easter lilies on his lawn -- a peaceful protest interrupted when sprinklers came on suddenly.
His fiancee's brother picked up the flowers and handed them to a bystander to take away. John Centonze declined to answer questions, only saying that Michael Schiavo was "very upset."
The saga was on the mind of many churchgoers, but some leaders skipped mention of it in Easter services.
At St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church in Clearwater, Father Ted Costello scrupulously avoided mentioning the Schiavo case. Yet at Faith Lutheran Church in Dunedin, the Rev. Peter Kolb thought Schiavo's story was appropriate for his sermon. "One day, we're all going to go through the valley," he told churchgoers.
Extra police officers blocked the road in front of Schiavo's hospice. Pinellas County school officials said the elementary school next to the hospice would not open Monday. The 600 students were to be sent elsewhere.
And some protesters continued demanding Gov. Jeb Bush intervene, but Bush told CNN he cannot ignore numerous state and federal court rulings against intervention. "I don't have powers... that would allow me to intervene after a decision has been made," he said.
Gibbs told CBS he believed Bush has done all he could. "Gov. Bush has been a real friend," he said.
Schiavo's parents dispute that their daughter is in a persistent vegetative state as court-ordered doctors have determined. Michael Schiavo contends his wife told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially.
At least two more appeals are pending by the state and Bush, but those challenges are before the state 2nd District Court of Appeal, which has rebuffed the governor's previous efforts in the case.
http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/2005/03/050328schiavo.shtml
Then how has Terri received communion all these years, including just before they pulled the feeding tube, as has been widely reported here? Do you think that all the Catholics who ever went into a coma before death were not able to take communion? I think that's a ridiculous thing to say.
I don't know her and hadn't spoken with her until tonight although I remember reading her nick on other threads quite awhile ago. I don't remember those posts so they must not have been "earth shattering" or controversial.
Everyone has the same rights on this forum to post opinions, etc.
I don't condemn individuals for expressing their opinions except when they are totally outrageous and even then I don't condemn individuals.....only general statements with regard to the general content of some posts.
I don't consider anything that Anny has said as being outrageous. Even if I did I wouldn't attack her or anyone else for merely expressing opinion.
Perhaps many other think your posts are outrageous. I don't know. I'm just trying to give to you a point of reference and to put things into perspective. :-)
what kind of "medical profesional" are you? I've stated I am a 13 year veteran RN and deal with death and dying all of the time and in Hospice care, morphine is very standard medication given to control shallow, labored breathing. Are you saying this is an inappropriate drug to give? Pfft, you'd better write a letter to the head of the National Hospice organization and let them know your feelings on this matter, lol. I never wanted any of this for Terri, but this is going to be very ugly and imminent death for her, so anything that will make it more comfortable is something that should be done. My grnadmother was dying and in the last hour of her life was gasping and struggling for air. according to you, that's how it should be. they gave her morphine and she was much more comfortable with her breathing and the gasping stopped. Again, I never wanted this for Terri and don't know how on earth MS and Greer put their heads on a pillow at night, but this death at this point is imminent for her, i want it to be comfortable. it's too far at this point, unless someone runs in there with a feeding tube right now. She's dying and you are either extremely ill informed despite your unidentified "professional" status, or are just plain selfish.
Just curious. Are you by any chance from Canada?
I nominate Mel Gibson to finance and produce.
Exactly. This was a PR stunt. Evil walks the land, but this communion is still valid. Bless Terri and her family. I'm not giving up, because where there is life, there is hope...
I believe you are correct.
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