Posted on 10/08/2005 12:16:38 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
He believes that was the last thing Hinrichs heard, and that for whatever reason, Hinrichs decided not to harm him.
“At that moment, I realized how truly God had directed my path,” he said.
:-)
Geesh did it again... keep forgetting to change the To: spot!
See post #18 for a link to the photo you requested.
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/marktapscott/2005/10/08/170668.html
There They Go Again
Justice Department Clamps Down on OU Suicide Bomber Facts
Oct 8, 2005
by Mark Tapscott
It was only hours after Joel Henry Hinrichs III blew himself up Oct. 1 near 84,000 football fans at the University of Oklahoma when federal officials claimed he was just a troubled young man with no links to terrorists.
But then yesterday the U.S. Department of Justice asked a federal court in Oklahoma City to seal the search warrant officials there used to get into the apartment Hinrichs’ shared with three or four students described by neighbors as “Arab-looking men.”
If Hinrichs acted alone and had no links to terrorists’ organizations or activities, why seal the search warrant? What did investigators find in Hinrichs’apartment that they don’t want the public to know?
That’s an especially important question considering what was already known when Justice sealed the warrant. For example, media reports confirmed by Oklahoma law enforcement sources said investigators found bomb-making materials in the 21-year-old University of Oklahoma engineering student’s apartment.
It was also known that the bomb that killed Hinrichs was made with “Mother of Satan,” the same extremely volatile chemical explosive used by Richard Reid, the “Shoe Bomber” who tried to blow up a commercial airliner a few years ago.
We knew as well that two days before he blew himself up, Hinrichs tried to buy ammonium nitrate from a local feed store. The store owner, who became suspicious when Hinrichs couldn’t give a satisfactory answer for why he wanted the fertilizer that was a main ingredient in the bomb that destroyed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City April 19, 1995, prevented him from doing so.
Finally, it was known that Al Qaeda has been talking since before May 2005 about launching an October offensive in the United States to coincide with the holiest of Muslim holidays, Ramadan. Oct. 5 was the first fast day of Ramadan.
So there is no surprise that the more officials with the FBI and the Joint Task Force on Terrorism deny Hinrichs had any terrorist ties, the more holes appear in the “lone bomber” scenario first hastily offered by OU President David Boren. Boren is a former U.S. senator who chaired the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence when he retired from government in 1994.
Start with the actual holes made in the bark of a tree near the bench where Hinrichs was sitting when he died. The holes appear to have been made by ball bearings or perhaps nails, the very objects typically used by Middle Eastern terrorists bombers to inflict the most widespread possible damage, injury and death.
Here’s another hole: Hinrichs registered his car in Oklahoma in June of this year, but only for nine months ending in February 2006. The June registration could be explained by his going to summer school, but the February expiration date would fall in the early weeks of what would have been his spring semester at OU. Did he know months ago that he would not be around by the time February rolled around next year?
Speaking of his car, federal investigators gave it the once-over but then left it in the parking lot of the apartment complex where Hinrichs lived with three or four Muslim students. By the way, the Muslim Students Association office is across the street from the apartment complex, as is the mosque attended by alleged 9/11 “20th hijacker” Zacarias Moussaoui while he was attending a local flight school.
Not only did investigators not impound Hinrichs’ car, they also left out in plain sight on the vehicle’s front seat the Justice Department inventory of things they found in it, including 13 plastic bottles.
The bottles weren’t described, nor did the inventory indicate whether any of them had anything in them. However, plastic bottles are often associated with bomb makers who find the containers suitable for transporting volatile chemical explosives.
The most disturbing hole, though, is the letter intercepted by U.S. intelligence last May from Iraq terrorist mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to Osama bin Laden describing a “Great Ramadan Offensive.” The offensive was described as a series of spectacular attacks in the U.S. and elsewhere during Ramadan, which is in October.
Was the OU stadium bombing intended as the first of those attacks?
The foregoing is only a sampling of the numerous facts turned up in the week since Hinrichs died by yours truly and other bloggers, including Generation Why, Zombietime, Flopping Aces and The Jawa Report.
Without these bloggers ignoring the accepted version of Joel Henry Hinrichs’ grisly death and forcing the mainstream media to take notice of an immensely important story, odds are good we would find out too late just how important a story it is.
I really need to get to bed - my mistakes here are making me look like a ditz!!!
Apologies for the wrong link above, I saved the reply link directly below the post number. Here is the correct link to the photo:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=3866#3866
Thanks for the photo. I am guessing they removed the bench rather than it evaporated into thin air.
Here's an older video link that shows the Towncar, WITH FBI NOTES ON THE SEAT.
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5065442/detail.html
(Scroll down)
Video: Neighbors React
Thanks for posting that maggie. His editorial misses a few holes, but all-in-all it's a good summary of why people aren't buying the official story...
Yes, they removed it and then OU workers replaced it within hours of the removal of the crime scene tape. As I said up in a post I mis-addressed, I'm pretty sure I saw another picture that showed marks on the sidewalk itself. At the time this photo was taken they also took pictures of people hosing down the buses parked nearby. My guess is that this picture was taken after they hosed down the sidewalk as well... again you can probably imagine why this was done. If I find the other picture I'll try to post it here or link to it.
The photo that shows a large, black scorch mark on the concrete was on the site that shall remain nameless and unlinked. It is still there on the site, about halfway down the page.
remember the pizza delivery guy in PA who had a bomb "placed" around his neck? Makes ya wonder if there is so much more to this story.
Looks like this event is at least getting the attention of editorial writers...
Here's a link to another editorial this one on investors.com . Again this writer misses some more links, but paints a good picture of why there should be more interest in this story...
Issues & Insights
Fits Him To A 'T'?
Posted 10/7/2005
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=1&issue=20051007
I actually caught that story on "America's Most Wanted" a short time ago - which I usually don't watch. Very troubling. They had the guy following a scavenger hunt map to free himself from that bomb. Hearing him plead with the LEOs who were skeptical of his claims (understandable) was heart-wrenching. His sister said he loved these types of searches and always participated in the local radio station event of that nature (which leads me to theorize he may have known his killers - which make it even more cruel). That was a very sad story.
LAZ: Please post your Norman, OK post on this thread as well. Seems we have to spell this out for some... Thought I might as well post my summary on this thread too...
ALL:
Here's the Summary I've been working on the last few days that I quickly updated. I apologize for lack of proper grammar. I hope I haven't left anything important out. Please alert me if I did. I will be cross-posting this to the original thread.
UPDATED (10/08) "Cliff Notes" summary...
First, the MSM is still following the AP and Official Story as well as keeping the lid on things for the most part - Several local media outlets in both CO and OK are not buying the official line and have done their own in-depth reporting. Channel 9 and Channel 4 in particular are doing a better job than ANY of the other channels/papers. The local station in CO Springs - KKTV Ch. 11 deserves a plug here too.
Agencies investigating are reported as: Homeland Security, Joint Terrorism Task Force, FBI, Norman and OU PD, ATFE (BATF). FBI has officially taken the lead in this investigation although they are not releasing details at this time.
1.) Someone set off a bomb sometime between 7:20 and 8pm outside the OU/Kansas State game on Oct. 1, 2005. There are discrepancies on the exact time and we are working on getting a definitive time right now. The most recent article listing a time states 7:30pm. The blast itself according to those at the game shook the walls of the stadium itself and the noise was heard over the crowd and gameplay. There are reports that the explosion could be heard for a fair distance from the location itself.
FReeper PhiKapMom overheard witnesses telling police that they saw "two Middle Eastern" men running from the scene. The witnesses were an Iranian (Persian) girl, and her boyfriend who is a member of the same Frat as PhiKapMom's son. PhiKapMom also states that the male witness' face was still red from the heat of the blast...
2.) One person reportedly killed. He has tentatively* been identified as 21-year-old Joel Henry Hinrichs III of Colorado Springs, a mechanical engineering student at OU. He was a member of the Triangle Fraternity. He graduated from Wasson High School. He was a National Merit Scholar although he lost that scholarship (Ch. 4 OKC)
Although his father and the MSM media (AP) and one local channel (ch.5) adamantly maintain he was not associated with muslims, and was not one himself he was living with a Pakistani roommate who is(more on him later...). Boren (OU Pres.), FBI and others are trying to play this off as an "isolated incident" and a suicide by a "mentally unstable" young man. Connecting the dots in this story does NOT lead to that conclusion.
Please note his father on 10/07 stated that Joel was "conservative" - earlier the Father said he was "apolitical". It has already been established by the CO Gazette that the last time his father saw him was in Jan. of '05 when Joel stopped by for a half-hour on his way through town on a "road trip".
It is reported that Mr. Hinrichs had a ticket to the game and attempted to enter the stadium (containing approx. 84000 people) with a backpack through at least 2 gates** before running away when asked to allow a search of his bag. (confirmed by several different media outlets). He then went and sat at a bench by the bus loading area.
Some reports state he was taking stuff out of his backpack and trying to put it on his person or fiddling with it somehow and it went off. (Many articles have stated the bomb that exploded was strapped onto the person's body).
The bus driver reported on 10/07 in an interview that when he saw Hinrichs on the bench shortly before the blast he was "bent over" and he said he assumed the person was sleeping.
Seeing as there was a large amount of explosives found in his apartment (see below) it might be assumed that this was an "accident" of some sort and he probably didn't mean to be killed... Report from KKTV Ch. 11 in Colorado Springs reporting on 10/06/05 that the bomb that went off was a "remote-controlled" device.
(* After reports of his identity and comments from his family were obtained by various media outlets in CO and OK they are now saying that there must be DNA testing and it could take a while.
**Report of attempted entry attributed to OU student Adam Smith via several news interviews. States that a gate security guard told him someone ran off after the guard tried to search the backpack he was carrying.)
3.) Five others reported injured and then the 5 injured "disappeared" from the reporting with articles only mentioning that one was killed. I personally followed up with the media outlet (CFRA.com) that was running the story with the 5 injured report. They state that the original report came from usaradio.com. After I contacted them they removed the "5 injured" statement. (I have screen shots to confirm this).
5 "accomplices" were mentioned in reporting on 10/05 out of Oklahoma (Ch. 4 or 9) - reporter says may have been involved with the bombing or taking stuff out of suspected "suicide's" apartment.
4.) Police responding with bomb squad found and detonated a second package containing what is now said to have contained materials or "parts" of a bomb (Ch. 9 - OKC - 10/06). This was originally reported as a second device by authorities (including OU Pres. Boren). Reports state this package was found in the lower-level of the nearby parking garage (early newspaper reports). This claim was later refuted by Boren (10/02).
Authorities on the scene cordoned off the area around the park bench where the explosion occurred and PADLOCKED the gates of the Stadium and did not let people leave until the end of the game. At that time they let everyone out of gates away from the crime scene.
5.) FBI cleared out apartment building on 10/02 and such and hauled away explosives deemed very volatile and exploded them on the local PDs test range before notifying others. People report hearing that explosion some 4-5 miles from the range. Also found in the apartment was Islamic papers and such (THIS REPORT OF PAPERS IS "RUMORED" at this time).
FBI also confiscated items out of Hindrich's car - clearly seen paperwork left in the car which is still parked outside his apartment complex indicate 12 plastic bottles. Reports that came out before the search warrant was sealed also state that they confiscated his hard-drive.
The FBI also took the bench in question which was replaced on Sunday (I think) - I do know it was replaced very quickly after authorities took down the tape and such.
6.) The device used and presumably stuff detonated the next day were TATP - "mother of satan" is the name the Islamic Jihadists call it. Very volatile substance. Again KKTV Ch. 11 is now reporting that this was a remote control device located on Hindrichs back.
7.) Roommate of Joel Hinrichs is named Fazal M. Cheema and is reportedly MIA at this time. There were reports he was brought back in for questioning and then released back to his apartment but this has been reported as not accurate. Ch. 5 is reporting he has "relocated" somewhere in Norman.
Reports state that an airline ticket belonging to this person for a date in the future was for a trip to Algeria (Confirmed reported on KKTV11 out of CO Springs 10/06 & local OK stations).
Cheema was taken into custody by the FBI and released along with several others in the apartment he was seen emerging from the night of October 1st.
8.) There are reports of Joel being seen at a local mosque on numerous occassions (Ch.9 or 4 reported this - can't remember which off-hand - doing this summary from memory). (THERE ARE CONFLICTING REPORTS COMING OUT ABOUT THIS "ASSERTION" ) . It is known that his roommate visited the mosque.
9.) Hinrichs attempted to buy Ammonium Nitrate several days before the blast at the local feed store (Ellison's). The owner of the feed store states that Joel came in asking to purchase a large amount. When asked why he needed it the owner of the feed store said he mumbled an answer. The owner reports that Hindrichs was dressed in a green vest with many pockets (photographer's type).
Norman PD verified today (10/06) that an undercover police officer was in the store at the time and got a license plate number. The Norman PD officer called in the tag numbers and Joel came back "clean" on paper. Norman PD held a press conference today (10/06) and stated that the officer followed procedure and would've alerted others when he returned to work on the following Monday - two days after the bombing.
10.) Jayna Davis, author of "The Third Terrorist" reported in an interview today on the (10/06) that she called the Attorney General requesting a copy of the search warrant used by the FBI. The AG stated that the file was sealed. When she asked him why - if this was a lone suicide - the file was sealed she said he became uncomfortable. She further pressed and he was forced to admit that there was still an ongoing investigation. The AG refused to speculate on whether the file would ever be opened or when.
Suffice to say that most of us who have been following this story agree that it stinks to high heaven as far as the "official line" goes.
This is especially true considering the history of Norman, OK, OKC, OU, and the presence of Hamas and Al Qaeda groups which are known to law enforcement. (Massoui(SP?), Atta, Nick Berg, et al...)
Some early reports that couldn't be necessarily relied upon (verboten site to FR & WND using their info) are now being confirmed and reported in bits and pieces by local media in CO & OK as well.
Probably the most remarkable thing about all of this is the lack of coverge in the MSM nationwide. Fox originally broke the story and then pulled it. A google search of news (on 10/03) showed only 300 or so articles the other day vs. over 6,000 for Bali and over 1600 for the NY boating accident which took place on the 2nd.
This is slowly changing over the last day or so (10/08) as several editorial writers have commented on this and the AP has released another updated article.
To get caught up on Eyewitness reports you may wish to scan through for posts from PhiKapMom on this thread (and others) - she was there and has a lot of relevant information. Rte66 has done some excellent background searching. Cindy has been posting updating links listings and, a few days ago backhoe put up a thread with a compilation of links as well.
Many other Freepers have contributed parts as always - TEAMWORK is key!!! Thanks to all who have been pinging me and freepmailing me and others with info!
For new articles and such the keyword: NORMANBOMBING is being used to tie all threads together.
I will keep editing and adding to this summary and posting on this thread probably once a day. There is more I could add tonight but I'm falling asleep! LOL
Again thanks for everyone's assistance in gathering information on this event!
LibertyRocks
The Gulf War never ended. We signed a cease-fire and kept our end of the bargain, but Saddam continued hostilities throughout the 90's in the only way he could -- through terrorism. And he linked with Al Qaeda to do it, each one fighting on a different front but with much cross-pollination centered in Norman. So what has happened since '91?
1) WTC '93, masterminded by Iraqi agent Ramzi Yousef
2) OKC '95, by Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, but aided by Iraqi agents
3) TWA 800, probably by Al Qaeda
4) Embassies in Africa, by Al Qaeda
5) U.S.S. Cole, by Al Qaeda
6) 9/11, by Al Qaeda, but executed in a manner remarkably similar to Yousef's Project Bojinka to finish what Yousef started back in '93.
For twelve years, we sat and waited for the UN to do its inspections while Saddam continued fighting and Al Qaeda joined the battle. And Klintoon fiddled through it all, while the sheeple failed to connect the dots right in front of their faces.
When GW started the Iraq War in 2003, he was simply resuming hostilities on our side and doing what Klintoon should have done but avoided like the plague. The Iraq War isn't a new war. It isn't even Gulf War Part Two. It is a resumption of the Gulf War after twelve years of cease-fire constantly violated by Saddam with both weapons inspections shenanigans and terrorist actions. Saddam is now out of the war, but Al Qaeda continues it. It needs to be finished, no matter what it takes, no matter how long.
The stench of LUTEFISK in the air!
http://tinyurl.com/dvz9n
One thing that sticks out is that they promote the "he was not a loner, suicidal etc" Never mentions him being a Muslim convert.
I'd say they didn't really know much about the guy and their dissertation amounts to typical on campus relationships.
Laz - Bin Laden's personal pilot, al Nawawi, later implicated in the African embassy bombings, also attended Airman Flight School in Norman.
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/disinfo/deceptions/bostonglobe091801.html
Hydrogen peroxide is not explosive. It is however a "precursor" used in the production of the actual explosive, triacetone triperoxide (TATP).
But this is AP, can' expect them to set the father's misconceptions straight for it's readers. In looking up the name, I found out that an Israeli professor (chemistry) developed a pen shaped hand held detector for the stuff, almost 4 years ago!
Someone must have gotten a strange order or was approached by an Arab to buy a bulk amount for Tom to say that OR they're finding one everytime they pick someone up. The same year and edition keeps everyone on the same page.
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