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Security Tapes Lack OU Explosion Clues
KOTV ^ | 10/08/2005 | KOTV

Posted on 10/09/2005 5:39:18 AM PDT by BlackRain

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To: PhiKapMom

"I am going to drive by the stadium gate where I go in everytime to see if there is anything NEW been added."

Let us know what you find, PKM. This could be interesting. I doubt anything new has been added in the way of cameras, because bureaucracies like universites move too slow normally.


21 posted on 10/09/2005 9:02:42 AM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire
Wow, this case has more contradictions than a Clinton apology.

"The FBI reportedly has confirmed that its review of surveillance cameras in the stadium did not reveal that Hinrichs tried to gain entrance. However, OU President David Boren declined at midweek to say whether cameras are mounted at all entrances."

How can you confirm that he did not attempt entry when all the entrances don't have cameras?

http://www.tulsaworld.com/NewsStory.asp?ID=051009_Ne_A1_Stude29092
22 posted on 10/09/2005 11:45:47 AM PDT by BlackRain (Trust, but verify. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dave S

Yes, that is a good point. I happened to think of that after I posted that note but then I thought, Freepers have a brain so surely they'll think of being up front and perhaps covering their bases in case some paranoid officer hoves into view. I've met a few of those in my day...


23 posted on 10/09/2005 11:54:30 AM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: penelopesire

Just to let you know -- my daughter is already back in Norman and my son is about 30 minutes away. YEA!

I am headed for the university as soon as my son picks up his dog. They move really slow when getting work done.


24 posted on 10/09/2005 1:34:20 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: BlackRain

That's what "did not reveal" means.

They also did not reveal what I had for dinner.


25 posted on 10/09/2005 1:37:03 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: PhiKapMom

Glad to hear they are back safe and sound. I watched the game yesterday with hubby and son. It was nerve racking just watching it on TV. Will check back later and see what you might have found at the stadium.


26 posted on 10/09/2005 2:27:11 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: BlackRain

Paging Rosemary Woods...


27 posted on 10/09/2005 2:28:57 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: BlackRain

"Wow, this case has more contradictions than a Clinton apology. "

LOL..good one.

"How can you confirm that he did not attempt entry when all the entrances don't have cameras?"

Exactly. I am afraid this story is going to go away this week. There are probably already lawsuits being threatened by Cair and similar groups.


28 posted on 10/09/2005 2:33:52 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: PhiKapMom; BlackRain
that's not saying they are not there but he said earlier this week they were installing them at the gates.

No hoo-hoo. He was not seen on any of the (test) tapes that the FBI reviewed from the newly installed cameras.

29 posted on 10/09/2005 2:52:59 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: El Gato
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30 posted on 10/09/2005 3:21:16 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
We're on it!


31 posted on 10/09/2005 3:23:49 PM PDT by sono (I knew I was going to take the wrong train, so I left early. L Berra)
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To: BlackRain; penelopesire
I just returned from campus.

If his car was an old beat-up blue Lincoln Town Car, then it is still in the parking lot. It has one of the roofs that was not metal on the outside but kind of a leather like material -- I cannot think what they are called.

As for video cameras, I found what looks to be a new one installed at the SE corner of the end zone where students enter and also a new one in the parking garage as you leave -- at least they look new as they are black and around here black turns into grayish looking with the dirt blowing around. Could not find any at Gate 1; Gate 2 had one but it was pointed at the back of the ticket office not the gate; Gate 3 and 7 -- couldn't find any but will go back tomorrow to see if walking around I can see more. Very few people around campus this afternoon and frankly didn't want to stand out.

Looks to me like the video surveillance in the stadium was for ticket offices where they would have money and tickets not for the gates. The student gate definitely has one today -- all nice and new looking.

Can confirm a lot of ME students in Parkview Apartments that love to stare. Parking lot is pretty full at the Islamic Center.

End of my report from OU!

32 posted on 10/09/2005 3:33:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: TomGuy
"Of course, all the area security tapes will wind up in a box next to the box that contains the some-27 security videos that have never been released to the media/public from the Murrah bombing ."

Yeah...right next to the White House tape showing Vince Forster being carried out in a rolled up carpet.

33 posted on 10/09/2005 5:18:29 PM PDT by spokeshave
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