OU student left suicide message

The Oklahoman ^ | Sun October 16, 2005 | Nolan Clay

[digitalbrownshirt]

Easy question. Boren is protecting the school's finances. Foreign students pay full tuition. Wouldn't want them to feel unwelcome. The rest of the students might decide to go elsewhere for their educations, which also would hurt OU finances. Education is a business. Nothing more.

[Rodney King]

For it being only one line, he seems to have said quite a lot.

Well, it could have said "F this S**tty world, F it all, I quit." Or something like that.

[Prime Choice]

"Nice guys who keep to themselves" should be watched contantly.

No kidding. Every time I hear someone is "so quiet," I go straight to DefCon 2.

Nobody ever says, "Oh...we saw this coming from a mile away; he was a loud-mouthed a-hole" after a guy goes on a killing spree. No...it's always "We're shocked. He was always so quiet."

[Rodney King]

Foreign students pay full tuition

Nope. At least not in the grad programs. In the grad program I was in the foreign kids all had free rides while we Oklahoma residents paid tuition.

[Fog Nozzle]

Why don't I believe a word of this? I don't even have a tin foil hat.

[MizSterious]

"...how silly that looks when it's Goggled now...."

So now people on this thread have to wear goggles? Would regular safety glasses work? I have some in the other room where I work on my stained glass--let me run get them.

[calex59]

I agree, my nephew committed suicide and left his family a note and it is imprinted on his fathers brain, never to be forgotten. I didn't get to read it or I would also have it burned into the gray matter. The FBI is trying to spin this into a simple suicide when it probably, IMO, was meant to be a large scale killing.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

The FBI left the computer on this whole time through the investigation? The cursor was still blinking? I find that to be... BS.

It says the note was there when the FBI ARRIVED. Unlike FReepers the FBI doesn't run out and proclaim everything that springs into their minds the minute it pops up.

Why would you think it had to still be there?

[LADY J]

"The University of Oklahoma student who died in an explosion Oct. 1 left a message on his computer that he was going to quit living, his father said."

Right!! And I just saw some pigs flying by my window!!

[MizSterious]

Actually, the night it happened, they announced almost immediately that there was no suicide note. They were sure quick to proclaim the absence of a note--but a little late in backtracking, it seems.

[manwiththehands]

"Anybody could have typed it."

Agreed. This particular piece of computer "evidence" is worthless.

[durasell]

ATTENTION! I HAVE THE CONTENTS OF THE NOTE! IT READS AS FOLLOWS:

"Messy, isn't it?"

[digitalbrownshirt]

re:24
How's that work? Are they scholarships or is it free because someone else (their government) is paying for their fees? I'm having a hard time believing that Oklahoma isn't gettting paid somewhere.

[oolatec]

--- His father said he thinks his son was just committing suicide and never intended to hurt anyone else. ---

Then why not OD or slit your wrists? Strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing yourself up near a football stadium... several blocks from your home, just doesn't add up.

[NY Attitude]

Ah yes, the vortex of illusion spins faster and wider.

[brytlea]

I don't know all the ins and outs of computers, but it really wouldn't be possible to tell if the roommate wrote it after the fact, or even if the FBI did (I'm not suggesting they did, I'm just making the point that anyone with access to the apt and computer could have done it, yes?)
susie

[durasell]

Then why not OD or slit your wrists? Strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing yourself up near a football stadium...



Maybe he wanted to go out with a bang?

[alicewonders]

There are so many unanswered questions here. It seems to me if this kid was part of a larger group, it would be to their advantage to make it look like he committed suicide. Why have all these other explosives in the apartment if there were no other plans to use them? No way did his roommate not notice them. And who would have access to the kid's computer? The roommate of course! Why couldn't he have left the message to get the heat of of him?

[Rodney King]

How's that work? Are they scholarships or is it free because someone else (their government) is paying for their fees? I'm having a hard time believing that Oklahoma isn't gettting paid somewhere.

What happens is that the people who rate business schools, like US News and world report, put a huge value on "diversity" and % of international students in the student body in their rankings. Also, Dean's like to go to cocktail parties and pat each other on the back for being so enlightend as to have a more diverse student body that other similar schools.

So, there are a certain amount of scholaships endowed by alumni, but given away at the discration of the Deans. They mostly go to foreign students. Then, the Dean's have the power to give away graduate assistanceships. These pay say 10 bucks an hour, guaranteed, plus medical benefits, and you rarely have to do anything, so it is like getting paid to study. The foreign students get all the plum 20 hour per week jobs.

So the net result is Oklahoma taxpayers shell ought dough for foreign students, maybe 10% of them actually stay and work in Oklahoma. For most it is just a roundabout way to get to New York on someone else's dime.