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"Biohazard" Break-in
Oklahoma Gazette ^ | November 2, 2005 | Ben Fenwick

Posted on 11/04/2005 9:57:10 AM PST by LibertyRocks

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To: MizSterious

We don't even really know if the vial was taken from Richards Hall...

As some have pointed out in past threads they could've brought the vial into the building with them. All we know is that a "stoppered glass vial" was found on Boyce's person when he was searched that night/morning.

There are conflicting statements floating around over whether the vial was empty or not when it was found. Even if it was empty - as according to Sgt. Robinson of the OUPD - that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't contain something previously...

In thinking about this further my SPECULATIVE GUESS (provided that the vial was empty prior to and after the burglary) is that Boyce brought the vial in to the building hoping to fill it once inside and failed to achieve that due to the fact that the substances in the room they entered had been moved... That would make the most sense to me at this point. As I said, that's assuming that the vial was indeed empty and was not emptied at some time during the execution of their burglary "plan".


21 posted on 11/04/2005 2:32:16 PM PST by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing Summary and more... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Thanks for posting that Granny. (o:


22 posted on 11/04/2005 2:33:12 PM PST by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing Summary and more... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: All
Also of interest is the comment I found over at the FloppingAces blog today (which I had not seen previously). Please keep in mind there is NO WAY TO VERIFY THE FOLLOWING information as true - it is hearsay and posted here because it may shed light on how the FBI tied Boyce/Eldridge to the OU Bombing Case...

Posted in response to:
Oklahoma Students Stealing Vials Of What?
@ FloppingAces

I saw an article about this on the front page of the OU school paper the other day. His [Boyce's] name sounded really familiar to me so I started asking around with people that I thought we both knew, and checking to see what I could find on the internet. I found out some interesting things. Apparently he spent at least a year working as a security guard for the OOUPD AND his roommate (conspicuously out of the picture) is in the same fraternity as “Unibomber Joe,” AKA Joel Hinrichs. This just makes me wonder even more, what would this left wing nut with insider connections and clear ties to Joel Hinrichs want with vials from the Biology lab?

Comment by Gene — October 27, 2005 @ 11:41 am

In response to a question Gene
posted the following for clarity...

I was talking about Boyce. I don’t know the name of the roommate right now, but I will see if I can find it.

Comment by Gene — October 28, 2005 @1:59 pm

23 posted on 11/04/2005 2:44:48 PM PST by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing Summary and more... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: GGGene; All
LOL...(see post#23)

I thought your comments sounded familiar when I read them over at FloppingAces. Looking back through for some other info I see you posted the same comments here at FR.

Were you ever able to find out the name of Boyce's roommate, or any additional information?
24 posted on 11/04/2005 2:54:22 PM PST by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing Summary and more... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All
Here's a Google Cache link to the OU Daily interview/article referred to in the OK Gazette article above.

U. Oklahoma library encourages free thinking
25 posted on 11/04/2005 3:04:35 PM PST by LibertyRocks (OU Bombing Summary and more... http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: LibertyRocks

I'm going to take a "wild guess" and say it might be someone named Kirk Allen.

Both he and Boyce list that College Ave. address as their home address. Also a person named John Gordon, but I can't pin him down as to an age or middle name--there is a 40something one elsewhere in Norman who is not this one. Nothing on Kirk C. Allen in the court dockets, either, in case you were gonna look.

Allen is a graduate engineer who may be a Triangle member. I haven't looked yet.


26 posted on 11/04/2005 4:15:33 PM PST by Rte66
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To: PhiKapMom

This is an extra ping to PKM because the 813 College Ave. address is in the next block south of the DG house, with which she is familiar.


27 posted on 11/04/2005 4:18:13 PM PST by Rte66
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To: LibertyRocks; GGGene

Thanks for those links and posts; I had missed the last few on the previous "tunnel burglars" topic. Glad I read them now.

So, you all already knew about the 3rd Space Infoshop, but I missed it. I want to learn how to live without capital, too, lol. Am I a revolutionary? Well, maybe DAR.

I can't believe Kent -- "I'm just so proud" of my little burglar. James: "Waaahh, dad always loved drug dealers and bombers better."

It also looks like the Gazette people might've been reading FR! Ha - they probably have a "designated FReader" and the rest stand back and hold their noses till the "FReader" is finished. (Says I, ::waving to any old friends I might have still at the Gazette:: .)


28 posted on 11/04/2005 4:36:51 PM PST by Rte66
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To: soltice
add another link into the islamic jihad terrorist ring at OU.

These guys may not themselves be jihadis. One worldwide phenomenon is the jihadis making alliances with radical Leftists against Western civilization

29 posted on 11/04/2005 11:44:59 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (I do what the voices in lazamataz's head tell me to)
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To: SauronOfMordor

You are correct. Knowing about the anarchists and all the other terror groups at OU I should have simply said:

"Add another link into the 'We Hate America' terrorist ring at OU."


30 posted on 11/05/2005 5:09:01 AM PST by soltice
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To: LibertyRocks

With each new "isolated" incident that happens, the more I am convinced that domestic radicals and islamists at our universities are working hand in hand toward a common goal. It's only a matter of time before one of their plans reaches fruition in a way that can't be glossed over as being "not connected to terrorism".


31 posted on 11/06/2005 9:38:33 AM PST by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: LibertyRocks
Catch me up here... What is "3rd Space?"

Sounds like the name of a band.

32 posted on 11/07/2005 6:33:41 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: nw_arizona_granny; LibertyRocks

Never mind... Holy Moley, I thought these guys had all been burned out and freeze-dried back in the 70's.


33 posted on 11/07/2005 6:36:57 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
What is "3rd Space?

One answer is here. We really don't want to meet that answer.

34 posted on 11/29/2005 7:22:04 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer
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