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1 posted on 03/01/2006 3:35:40 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy

That is one accident that saved lives.


2 posted on 03/01/2006 3:37:44 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Shermy

Right. And islam is the Religion of Peace.


3 posted on 03/01/2006 3:39:27 PM PST by pgobrien (82d Abn Inf pings......)
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Sorry, story posted earlier with different headline words.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1587763/posts

Close and link to prior thread?


4 posted on 03/01/2006 3:40:00 PM PST by Shermy
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The student's father, Joel Hinrichs Jr., has said his son intended to kill only himself.

Well, that certainly explains why he went to a location where 100,000 people were gathered.

5 posted on 03/01/2006 3:40:03 PM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: Shermy
Hinrichs was decapitated and his headless body was still upright

Geesh. I thought this kind of stuff was only possible in the cartoons.

6 posted on 03/01/2006 3:42:18 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: PhiKapMom; LibertyRocks; MizSterious

Ping - Joel Hinrichs III determined to have blown himself up accidentally, and not in the location he intended.


7 posted on 03/01/2006 3:42:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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They can spin it anyway they want but IMO this scumbag was planning to ake a whole bunch of people with him or plant the explosives and leave the area.


8 posted on 03/01/2006 3:42:47 PM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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When asked if he believed Hinrichs meant to enter the stadium with the explosives, Mauldin said, "I don't believe he intended for an explosion to occur at that spot (on a nearby park bench)."

In the immortal words of Dr. Peter Venkman, "I'd call that a big YES."

9 posted on 03/01/2006 3:45:04 PM PST by Erasmus (One fine day, sad to say, we'll all be Democrat voters.)
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"Investigators also found more TATP, components to make the substance, a fuse and live military rounds at Hinrichs' off-campus apartment."

No wonder his Paki roommate had tickets to leave the country for the following day.


11 posted on 03/01/2006 3:46:58 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Seems to me that they want to keep spinning this one. It won't work with me!


14 posted on 03/01/2006 3:48:27 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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In the words of Mick Dundee, "What a croc!"
Seriously , maybe the guy was experimenting foolishly.

"Officers also removed metal fragments that are often to explosives to make them more deadly, Mauldin said."

I'm assuming "attached" should be inserted into this poorly written statement in between "often" and "to".

If so, the attachment of fragmentation material would tend to indicate sinister motive....But what do we know?

18 posted on 03/01/2006 3:50:45 PM PST by labette (In the beginning God created....)
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The FBI just wanted to keep a lid on this. Hinrichs didn't walk seven blocks with a backpack stuffed with TATP in order to commit suicide. And there was a report that he tried to get inside the stadium at one of the gates.

My take is, he was waiting for the crowd to start coming out of the stadium, and had a work-related accident. People need to wake up and stop making excuses.


20 posted on 03/01/2006 3:51:53 PM PST by popdonnelly
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Nothing in the article about his Pakistani room mate in that apartment full of explosives. What about his location to the nearby mosque???


22 posted on 03/01/2006 3:54:14 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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Hmmm...I am certain its only a coincidence that TATP is the same explosive used by suicide bombers over in the ME and were used in the London bombings...no relationship whatsoever...

(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1695442,00.html)
30 posted on 03/01/2006 4:17:02 PM PST by MrBlueSky2005
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Actually, I think Sgt. Mauldin is more forthcoming than might first appear. When asked if the perp meant to attack the stadium, he says he doesn't think the perp meant to blow himself up on the bench. And he says that it was an accident, much like what are commonly called "work accidents" among Palestinian bomb makers. And he says that he thinks the perp got too cocky and fiddled with his bomb once too often.

He makes it pretty clear that it was not just an ordinary suicide, although that is the official story.

I suppose it's SOP, but it strikes me as stupid that they blew up the timer and wiring after the bomb had already gone off. Surely it was safe enough to remove and examine it closely, without having to blow up this important evidence yet again.

I'd say that the FBI and other authorities told this guy to keep this under his hat, but he didn't want to lie under oath. FBI agents don't seem to have any problem with doing that.


32 posted on 03/01/2006 4:20:47 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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no, an accident is something that is not meant to happen, period. this was meant to happen. the accident was that he was supposed to blow himslef to allah and take infidels with him INSIDE the stadium.


34 posted on 03/01/2006 4:31:25 PM PST by jw777
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To: Shermy

I still have a lot of questions about this. I doubt we'll ever know the whole story.


35 posted on 03/01/2006 4:32:08 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Shermy

Please see my tagline.


44 posted on 03/01/2006 6:04:14 PM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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I agree with Sgt. Mauldin; I don't think Hinrichs intended to kill himself by detonating the bomb at the bus stop bench.

Not long after the incident, a freeper posted a map of the area, showing the locations of Hinrichs' apartment, the football stadium, and the bus stop. If I remember it correctly, the stadium was north of the apartment, and the bus stop was farther away, somewhat west of the stadium.

I think the most likely scenario is that Hinrichs tried to enter the stadiuim with the bomb hidden in the backpack. The detonator was probably timed to explode during the game. But due to the stadium security procedures, he couldn't get in the with the backpack, so he walked to the bench to consider an alternate plan.

He may have wanted to change the timer, to detonate the bomb as the crowd was leaving the stadium. Or he may even have been trying to take the bomb out of the backpack, to conceal the bomb some other way, still hoping to get it into the stadium before the game ended.

I think we are very lucky that the device was unstable, and blew up when it did.

And I bet all of us think the roommate is suspicious. How can you not be aware of somebody working with dangerous chemicals in a small apartment?










48 posted on 03/01/2006 8:16:42 PM PST by 04-Bravo
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I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that is for sale.


52 posted on 03/02/2006 12:37:20 AM PST by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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