To: conservatism_IS_compassion; workerbee; dvan; DungeonMaster
What's a bastard?
A stupid word pinned on a child innocent of his parents bad choices.
bastard
1223, "illegitimate child," from O.Fr., "child of a nobleman by a woman other than his wife," probably from fils de bast "packsaddle son," meaning a child conceived on an improvised bed (saddles often doubled as beds while traveling), with pejorative ending -art. Alternate possibly is that the word is from P.Gmc. *banstiz "barn," equally suggestive of low origin. Not always regarded as a stigma; the Conqueror is referred to in state documents as "William the Bastard." Figurative sense is from 1552; use as a vulgar term of abuse for a man is attested from 1830. Bastardize "debase" is from 1587. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=bastard
As you can see, the term, bastard similar to the term, illegitimate, was intended to be descriptive of a childs legal position in terms of estate or chattels inheritance. However, your comments indicate that your regard the term as unfairly insulting.
The fact that you are not alone in your opinion of the word as insulting is indicative of the judgment of the parental moral lapse that resulted in the referenced childs birth. Such a judgment is also indicative of the value associated with marriage. After all, it would not be insulting to be referred to as a bastard unless the value of marriage had not been debased by violation of its strictures.
The question them becomes does allowing s0-called gar marriage debase the institution? The answer should be obvious: gay marriage is a gross violation of the institutions most basic principle.
To: Lucky Dog; conservatism_IS_compassion; workerbee; dvan; DungeonMaster; newgeezer
What an excellent post. The intent of my question was certainly not lost on you. In fact you expressed my feelings much better than I could have. I remember in the bible how offended Israel's heads were when Jesus said God was not their father. In the KJV it was translated "We are not bastards!". You can just hear the offense.
Being born out of wedlock is one kind of bastard, I suspect that if your parents get married a little late no one would ever think of you as a bastard or illegitimate. But imagine the stigma of having 2 sodomites as "parents"!!!??? Just sickening. That child is doomed in many ways.
As an aside, what in the world were the Bush women doing on the Ellen show yesterday? To appear on her show legitimizes her show and her perversion and further sinks the Republican party.
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05/28/2008 5:40:34 AM PDT by
DungeonMaster
(Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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