Bakhmut is over. If anyone thinks Russia will return the Dunbass after this blood and soil fight, they're smoking a large Zelenskyy.
Posted on 04/04/2023 6:47:18 AM PDT by ganeemead
Ukie situation similar to that of Japan after the Marianas fell...
Ho ho ho, said Santa Artillery...
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ouglas Macgregor (sic) has been saying the same thing since March 2022.
Bakhmut is over. If anyone thinks Russia will return the Dunbass after this blood and soil fight, they're smoking a large Zelenskyy.
Neocon messaging is superior.
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I truly don’t know what’s with Douglas McGregor, but he has been certain that Ukraine was about to collapse tomorrow every day since the war started.
My father was an AAC radio mechanic on Guam after it was retaken from the Japanese. For most of my life I believed that the US had routed the Japanese from the island by superior military force. It was only more recently that I learned that the Japanese soldiers ran off the island because they were afraid that the weight of the American soldiers and their materiel could have caused Guam to tip over, throwing them all into the ocean.
In WW II, the majority of infantry casualties were caused by artillery. Today modern artillery can fire a devastating shell over 20 miles with pinpoint accuracy. Combine that capability with drones armed with incredibly sophisticated surveillance capability, deployed troop formations don’t stand a chance. Even in trenches soldiers are killed by the vibrations alone. Like the Spanish Civil War before it, the Ukrainian war is changing the nature of warfare. War colleges everywhere are noting the new realities. The new technologies are making land armored vehicles, naval surface combatants, helicopters and fixed wing aircraft in battle zones obsolete. One could hope that the new technologies are making war so terrible and costly that future wars will not be an option for leaders. History demonstrates that the world will never come to that point.
RE: Neocon messaging is superior.
MacGregor is Just like Gordon Chang, who has been predicting the coming collapse of China for over 20 years.
MacGregor unlike like Gordon Chang is an experienced combat military officer with deep contacts within the current and past administrations. He doesn’t predict, rather he assesses the Ukraine using these skills. His accuracy when compared to the various Fox/Kagen/Jack Keane ISW sockpuppets is worth your time. Or maybe not.
RE: MacGregor unlike like Gordon Chang is an experienced combat military officer with deep contacts within the current and past administrations.
Yep, and I kept believing him. He has been on the radio for a year He predicted Ukraine’s total takeover in March, then April, then May of 2022.
Macgregor seems to have friends on the inside somewhere who give him accurate info on the capabilities and general disposition of Russian arms and Ukraine forces.
He then seems to extrapolate that to assume certain events, typically immediate “collapse” of Ukraine armed forces, which clearly has not occurred.
Regardless, I appreciate him because he is one of the few alternative voices to the USA state-run media. The western propaganda from controlled media is so overwhelming, its impossible to know any but the most obvious details of this war.
*Douglas Macgregor (sic) has been saying the same thing since March 2022.*
*I truly don’t know what’s with Douglas McGregor, but he has been certain that Ukraine was about to collapse tomorrow every day since the war started.*
This guy likes attention and knows how to get it. Good for book sales.
Reminds me of Bloomberg running for Mayor as a republican-it worked.
Then there’s McNeil/Lerher Report in the 80’s. Apartheid in South Africa. They turned to Jesse Jackson. A week later it was starvation in Etihopia-similiar? All that ‘analysis’ given through the prism of racism. Think push-polling during election season.
I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of an opponent with that kind of artillery superiority.
The US hasn't faced a peer opponent since WWII.
And our little proxy war in the Ukraine means that we STILL haven't faced a peer opponent - just our gewgaws & galvanized go-fasters have been put to the test.
Meanwhile, the Russians are gaining operational experience while grinding ukieburger, and demilitarizing NATO.
There are three wars being waged here. 1. The propaganda war (This one US Agencies Neo-cons and Zelensky has won to the tune of 400+ Billion dollars). 2. The political war (This one Zelensky has won by closing churches and jailing opposition. Same with the neo-cons that dominate the airwaves and newspapers). and lastly 3. The real war. In this Putin is slowly strangling Ukraine with massive firepower and cannons. It is becoming clear that no super tanks, F-16th, and spy in the sky works can win against a determined foe. Its about will and savagery —Russians (never nice guys on the battlefield) have both and will win if it take a dozen years. In time, even the Poles will get sick of the bloodbath.
This is weeks old, reposted by someone trying to get views on the youtubes. Macgregor really needs to get his own official You Tube channel, or at least his own site or blog listing his interviews by date with links to the originals.
That said, I agree with Macgregor about some things, disagree about others. He’s been right about certain things, wrong about others. Like everything else in this war, one needs to eat a lot of salt when trying to digest “information”.
My take: I’ve always thought the smartest thing the Russians could do is hold the line and just sit there and let the Ukrainians keep feeding troops into the Bakhmut cauldron until they are sufficiently attritted.
Nuland & Friends reportedly want the Ukrainians to attack Crimea. There is some evidence to support this, especially the newer stuff NATO is sending them and discussing sending (longer range missiles, jets, etc.). But who knows? Fog of war and all that. I have my doubts about how much difference the tanks provided by NATO will make, but I’m just a civvie, so what do I really know.
Anyway, I don’t see how the Ukrainians can pull off the win the US demands (return to 2013 borders) without NATO military personnel getting involved more than they already are. If that happens, what does Russia do?
The Red Army destroyed the greatest military force on earth in 1943-45 using massed artillery to drive the Wehrmacht all the way back to Germany. History repeats.
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