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Russia says F-16 jets in Ukraine will be seen as 'nuclear' threat
Daily Sun ^ | July 13, 2023

Posted on 07/15/2023 10:36:28 AM PDT by McGruff

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21 posted on 07/15/2023 11:02:15 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=40%>)
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To: Salman
they want to provoke Russia into using them first.

Sort of interesting to speculate on what the Russians would target first. I am sure it would hurt, a lot, but not represent a thing worth the self-immolation of the entire world.

22 posted on 07/15/2023 11:05:00 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BobL

I agree, BobL. The F-16’s will have a difficult time with the shape of this battlefield. Under USAF doctrine, we would use them once we had complete air superiority or total surprise. Using them anywhere near this active front with lots of anti-air assets will bring “disappointment.”


23 posted on 07/15/2023 11:08:21 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: everyone

‘That's called World War III’: Biden defends decision not to send jets to Ukraine

March 11, 2022

https://nypost.com/2022/03/11/thats-called-world-war-iii-biden-defends-decision-not-to-send-jets-to-ukraine/

24 posted on 07/15/2023 11:13:00 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

Russian nuclear threats are so boring.


25 posted on 07/15/2023 11:13:14 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: adorno; Signalman
After a while, it’s just noise.

Indeed, albeit in this case it could well be noise that is not survivable.

This not a poker game between these supreme power holders and throwing more armaments into the to the pot seems very unwise.

Signalman got it right upthread in #6. For comparison, it would have been an efficient, strong nation that could have spearheaded a move that eliminated Hitler before he started WWII.

26 posted on 07/15/2023 11:14:44 AM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: oldplayer

“Using them anywhere near this active front with lots of anti-air assets will bring “disappointment.””

Thanks, I try to read between the lines, since it’s very rare for the West to be truthful, and when the West is truthful, it’s almost always by mistake.


27 posted on 07/15/2023 11:19:32 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: Mariner

“At some point the Russian nuclear arsenal of over 7,000 warheads must be taken seriously.”

There is no indication that Russia spends enough money to maintain the 7,000 to 12,000 nukes they claim to have. They also haven’t replaced their Mayak facility that performs that maintainence.

Mayak blew up in 2017 and due to sanctions it never restarted.


28 posted on 07/15/2023 11:20:47 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Danie_2023

It’s LOL, because it is Russian BS


29 posted on 07/15/2023 11:23:20 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Trump's lies about Cuomo being better than DeSantis on Covid is DISQUALIFYING....)
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To: adorno

Actually it’s a deescalation, since the threat is coming from Lavrov not Putin. But you are right, it’s just more Kremlin noise.


30 posted on 07/15/2023 11:24:18 AM PDT by devere
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To: McGruff

Most Americans have overlooked the most import finding that came out of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Russian battery commanders are free to use nuclear weapons if they have them, right down to their equivalent of Second Lieutenants. Our military must get Presidential authorization before using nuclear ordinance. Get it?


31 posted on 07/15/2023 11:28:11 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Salman
I am convinced (the people behind) Biden really want a nuclear war

I doubt anybody wants a nuclear war, because, if there is one, all sides will end up the losers, and eve the world will end up losing a lot. Putin is sabre-rattling, so, don't put any kind of credibility into any threats from his side.
32 posted on 07/15/2023 11:39:03 AM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

BY the same token, the Russians are already using the MIG-31K to launch Kinzhal missiles against Ukraine. Kinzhals come in both conventional and nuclear flavors. Same threat to Ukraine as the Russians are complaining about here. So I think you are correct - the Russians are, as usual, escalating their threats, and after a while, it’s just noise.


33 posted on 07/15/2023 11:39:52 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: McGruff

If the Russians landed an Army on US soil I’d welcome them as liberators.


34 posted on 07/15/2023 11:40:16 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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To: Fai Mao

+1

Freedom for the subjects of the Globohomo Empire starts with military defeat and Regime collapse.


35 posted on 07/15/2023 11:42:35 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: AndyJackson
Sort of interesting to speculate on what the Russians would target first.

Entire East Coast of the US , DC, NYC, airbases and ports, from Maine to Florida , would not be much left.

They’d hit stuff overseas too, but you can bet they’d make the US mainland pay

Our missile silos would be targeted, the Mid West would be a mess

West Coast ports and bases.

Hawaii , any overseas base, Japan, Korea, Guam

They’d get as many as possible as would we.

Desth for everybody !?! ☠️☠️☠️

Who knows who else would want in ? China ? Pakistan? India ? and the rest… lol 😂

81 million votes for PedoJoe that’s what you get, somebody, probably Obongo/Jarret (Lizard Headed Alien) behind the scenes, provoking nuclear war .

WooHoo ! Yay Team ! F Yeah !

36 posted on 07/15/2023 11:42:44 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: rbmillerjr
In other words, we can’t defeat the F16 legacy fighter of the West. LOL

And that got us what exactly? 40 million illegals in country? In debt 33 trillion for the 10 generations? Our standard of living and economy in decline? Everything we touch made in Red China?

37 posted on 07/15/2023 11:43:53 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rbmillerjr

“It’s LOL, because it is Russian BS”

But...

what if it’s not?


38 posted on 07/15/2023 11:45:51 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: McGruff

Maskirovka again. This is manipulation.


39 posted on 07/15/2023 11:46:29 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: BobL

The Ukrainian pilots will last about ten minutes in the air.
How much training are they to receive?
Which variation of F-16 are they to receive?
How competent will they be after this training?
It will only get the pilots killed.


40 posted on 07/15/2023 11:47:04 AM PDT by EEGator
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