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The potential boondoggle of Greater Idaho
idaho Capital sun ^ | 18th April 2024 | Rebecca Talent

Posted on 04/24/2024 8:27:17 AM PDT by Cronos

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1 posted on 04/24/2024 8:27:17 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

I think there is justification for many states to adjust their borders. Can it be done? Aside from miniscule border adjustments, has there ever been large-scale adjustments?


2 posted on 04/24/2024 8:31:13 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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Fat fake injun throws phony shade on Oregon Escape plan.

Oh Noes! Abortion won’t be on demand! Run for your lives!

Undoubtedly all the Mexicans in Pendleton will be traumatized


3 posted on 04/24/2024 8:33:15 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Klamath Falls is pretty liberal. Im afraid their votes would not benefit Idaho.


4 posted on 04/24/2024 8:33:34 AM PDT by davidb56
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As a landowner in Eastern Oregon, already convinced that Greater Idaho should happen, you’ve just convinced me more :)


5 posted on 04/24/2024 8:35:05 AM PDT by Othniel77
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To: Reno89519

Changing state borders requires assent by the state legislatures involved as well as Congress.


6 posted on 04/24/2024 8:36:17 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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This means current revenue dollars would need to be stretched even more thinly to support roads, provide health and human services, license certain professions, education for both K-12 and higher education, land management, regulating alcohol and other products, and many other aspects of government.

Most of these things are not legitimate aspects of government anyway, and should be eliminated.

7 posted on 04/24/2024 8:43:55 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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I would LOVE to see this happen.

The trend would be for lower Illinois to split down the middle with the West half asking to join Missouri and the East half asking to join Indiana.

Then Southeastern California can petition to join Arizona.

It would make for some interesting realignment of electoral votes.


8 posted on 04/24/2024 8:44:41 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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“Klamath Falls is pretty liberal. Im afraid their votes would not benefit Idaho.”

At least the proposed border leaves Bend in with the rest of the Commies. Since it’s in the middle of nowhere some may think it’s a good Republican area.

I presume the recent leftward lurch in Deschutes County is coming from nutbuckets who can’t stand Portland or Gresham anymore, and want someplace new (Bend) to ruin. That plus the inescapable Mexican invasion that’s going on pretty much everywhere.


9 posted on 04/24/2024 8:48:40 AM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

No far-left state is going to split in “half” — ever.

Why would Democrats concede to going from a situation where a state has 2 Democrat Senators, to having the same area on the map suddenly have 2 Democrat Senators and 2 Republican Senators?

Never happen.

A state would have to split into at least 3 parts (2 of which favor Democrats) or it will never have the slightest chance of being allowed.


10 posted on 04/24/2024 8:51:18 AM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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To: PermaRag

There would be no change to senators since Eastern Oregon would be joining Idaho. Oregon would benefit since Eastern Oregon only draws revenue and provides Republicans to the state legislature.


11 posted on 04/24/2024 8:56:23 AM PDT by Othniel77
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“There would be no change to senators since Eastern Oregon would be joining Idaho.”

No kidding. That’s why I wasn’t talking about Oregon/Idaho and was specifically referring to states splitting in HALF, like that one poster wished for in Illinois.

If I lived in eastern Oregon, of course I’d be all for joining Idaho. It’s to have actual representation instead of being overwhelmed and outvoted by the sewage from the rest of the state which makes Oregon permanently “blue”.


12 posted on 04/24/2024 9:00:22 AM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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It will never happen because the Oregon state government would never agree to it.

Eastern Oregon University is in LaGrande. It could become Western Idaho University.

13 posted on 04/24/2024 9:08:49 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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And then what happens when Eastern Washington wants to join Idaho?


14 posted on 04/24/2024 9:10:10 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (We have a God Who loves us, and there's nothing we can do about it. Yes!!)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

“The trend would be for lower Illinois to split down the middle with the West half asking to join Missouri and the East half asking to join Indiana.”

Indiana sure as hell does not want Chicago.


15 posted on 04/24/2024 9:25:01 AM PDT by caver ( )
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To: Cronos
Translation - Democrats and RINOs in ID don't want more right-leaning voters in the state.
16 posted on 04/24/2024 9:29:30 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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You miss my point-they want to flee Illinois to get out f4rom under the leftist death-grip Chicago has on Illinois.

I say split it into three part with Iowa, Mizzou and Indiana taking the areas next to them and leave Illinois as Greater Chicago, Springfield and East St. Louis.

That way, Mizzou, Iowa and Indiana get more electoral votes and more conservative citizens and the parasitic lefties in Chicago and Springfield can feed off of their own with fewer electoral votes.

It’s a win/win!


17 posted on 04/24/2024 9:30:10 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: PermaRag
Why would Democrats concede to going from a situation where a state has 2 Democrat Senators, to having the same area on the map suddenly have 2 Democrat Senators and 2 Republican Senators?

A new state needs to be created. Take the existing State of Jefferson proposal and add Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington.

State of Jefferson Map

Actually, we need about fifty new states for more accurate representation. Every major metro area needs to be expelled into statehood.

18 posted on 04/24/2024 9:32:41 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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“A new state needs to be created. Take the existing State of Jefferson proposal and add Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington.”

I like the idea, but anything which increases Republican representation in the House or Senate and/or detracts from liberal representation is a non-starter. Now if it were the other way around, they’d force it through by the end of the week.


19 posted on 04/24/2024 9:34:59 AM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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I'd be willing to bet that Alberta Canada would love to join Greater Alberta. They are sick as hell of Trudeau and the Leftist politics of Canada.

Wowza!

20 posted on 04/24/2024 9:47:13 AM PDT by Chainmail (You can vote your way into Socialism - but you will have to shoot your way out.)
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