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1 posted on 04/29/2024 8:37:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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If the cheat and successfully steal it again, will it be legal to object?


2 posted on 04/29/2024 8:41:19 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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I have lied to pollsters since at least the start of the Obama years. That’s when I finally woke up to the Uniparty and its complete control of media and any institutions touching upon politics and government.


3 posted on 04/29/2024 8:41:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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If they


4 posted on 04/29/2024 8:41:36 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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My rule of thumb (and not just recently) -- Be skeptical of all "poll" results, especially if they tell you what you want to hear.
5 posted on 04/29/2024 8:43:14 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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I stopped believing polls when Reagan was telling Nuke jokes on a hot mike.


8 posted on 04/29/2024 8:44:39 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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At this point, I’m not sure what the point of a poll is.

They are always used as tools of manipulation for the future and not as a gathering of data from how people felt a week ago.

The election will tell us the winner.
The polls before the election are just trying to game the system.


9 posted on 04/29/2024 8:45:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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What is the appropriate response of a Trump supporter if/when contacted by a pollster?

1. Lie about your choices
2. Curse the pollster
3. Lie and curse the pollster
4. Fake a heart attack while on the call
5. All the above


12 posted on 04/29/2024 8:46:06 AM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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I gallup away from any poll.

Seriously...an honest poll requires a scientific research approach, and that is no longer possible. On the pollster side, obtaining a truly balanced sample, and asking truly neutral questions, can’t be done, because no one can define what would constitute ‘balance’ and there is no way to word questions to keep them from demonstrating bias.

On the other side, the Heisenberg effect is so strong that it is impossible to snapshot the public: anybody being polled is changing the response based on being polled—including of course people who refuse to respond, along with people who are afraid of the “wrong” response, and people who purposefully want to “Operation Chaos” the responses.


15 posted on 04/29/2024 8:50:07 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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The cheating factor, and theft of elections, never show up before the elections. Thus polls can’t be trusted, and even the results of elections can’t be trusted.

Polls are meant to give hope to candidates and to committed voters who will never vote for the opposition. Polls are always unreliable and never reflect what the end result will be, not with the current state of politics and ‘win at any cost’ policies of the different parties, especially the thieving democrats who mean to get the presidency at any cost. The presidency is where the power is at, and democrats will never let the voters make the decision. Democrats aim to win the presidency forever, and they cannot let any kind of opposition to get close to taking it from them.


16 posted on 04/29/2024 8:52:29 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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All polls commissioned by the main stream media are push polls.


17 posted on 04/29/2024 8:53:40 AM PDT by circlecity
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Think about it. How many decent, rational people will take a phone call from a perfect stranger and share with them their political opinions?


18 posted on 04/29/2024 8:53:58 AM PDT by allendale
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Never ceases to amaze me how short peoples memories are.

I point to the “great red wave” pre-election polling of 2022.....and as far as the SCOTUS abortion decision leak goes, the polling was reporting that it was gonna be such a slam du k that shouldn’t have even mattered.

IMO all polling should be outlawed. It’s now been weaponized to push a particular narrative to influence how people vote.


19 posted on 04/29/2024 8:54:06 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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Polls are just more manipulation spit out by the MSM.


20 posted on 04/29/2024 8:56:07 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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I was paying attention to that monthly Harvard poll until about January when they panicked after Kennedy hit 20% and the next month Biden started suddenly going up and RFK Jr going down.


23 posted on 04/29/2024 9:09:34 AM PDT by erlayman (E )
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I knew about it months ago.
Had an idiot that the other day insist that war with Russia is really popular because of “all these polls”.
Gotta love it.


25 posted on 04/29/2024 9:26:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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Ron DeSantis
@GovRonDeSantis

Florida’s response to Joe Biden trying to inject gender ideology into education, undermining opportunities for girls and women, violating parents’ rights, and abusing his constitutional authority:

“We will not comply!”


26 posted on 04/29/2024 10:04:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ((“Surrender often means wisely accommodating to what is beyond our control!” — Sylvia Boorstein.))
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Doesn’t matter if they’re cheating or not (they are). The democrats have violated their oath and are violating the law and are overseeing a literal invasion of this counter of people they are bribing with money and encouraging to vote illegally.


27 posted on 04/29/2024 10:18:06 AM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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Here's what I learned after several years working for a (very good) marketing research firm:

1. Polls are all biased. An unbiased poll is something of a work of art and they're difficult and expensive to prepare. Professional researchers allow for this in the analysis section, which is also expensive.

2. Polls are merchandise. They're something prepared for money sold to somebody who pays for them. If you're getting them for "free", meaning somebody else is paying for them, then that somebody is trying to sell you something.

3. Polls can be descriptive or normative, but not both. The cost for using them to influence behavior is that the results no longer work as objective descriptions. Political staffs tend to forget this and take their push polls' results seriously. It results in nasty surprises.

4. Polls are transient. They are a snapshot of answers given at a specific time and the longer it takes to gather and analyze the results, the bigger the error bars.

5. Online polls are worthless.

6. Polls about sexual behavior are worthless. Polls of teenagers concerning sexual behavior are hilariously worthless.

7. Polls whose answers may get the respondents in trouble with the law are worthless.

8. There is no such thing as anonymity.

9. Never confuse polls and data analytics. (Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign made that mistake). Past behavior is only an indirect predictor of future performance.

10. The best, most up-to-date, most accurate (and most expensive) political polls are not shared with the public because campaign staffs are planning tactics on their basis. These are termed internal polls. If you see them and you're not a campaign wonk, they're bogus.

I do not intend this to disparage polling at all - it's simply that like most things in politics it isn't quite what it appears to be. All IMHO, of course.

29 posted on 04/29/2024 10:53:37 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Yes, but can’t we un-skew the polls?


32 posted on 04/29/2024 4:59:31 PM PDT by nwrep
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