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To: Bob434

Bible, shmible. It’s a real comfort to the dead and their families to know that God has a plan. Don’t worry, you might be dead but God can end this easily whenever he decides to.


19 posted on 05/08/2024 8:27:33 AM PDT by webheart
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To: webheart

Hey, someone judging the righteousness of God, good luck with that.


20 posted on 05/08/2024 8:33:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: webheart

so you woudl have God turn man into a puppet by preventing man from exercising their own free will and sin however they like?

Sin, something that man chose freely by disobeying God’s order in the garden, is to blame, not God- But out of Evil God can and does bring good while still allowing man to choose freely-

Consider the following statements by a Christian think-tank site:

“Most of the ‘evil’ we blame on God are failures of humans to behave in even the most basic, and un-taxing ways—simple respect for the value of others.

“Thousands of Third World children die daily from largely preventable diseases: out of laziness or complacency, certain grownups fail to prevent them. Thousands of First World children are born drug addicts: their mothers have hooked them in the womb. Some people with sexually transmitted diseases knowingly put new partners at a terrible risk. It happens every day.” (Cornelius Plantinga, cited in [PH:CGBT:66])

And the case of the rapist is itself a human failure: the rapist himself, who is called and authorized—as a fellow human—to uphold the dignity and welfare of others, even by intervention in crime prevention (!), instead abandons that responsibility and becomes a traitor…Is this a failure of God to intervene, or a failure of the perp to ‘self-intervene’ and ‘self-prevent’?! Evil often has a face, but it is our face, not God’s.”

Believe me, God bleeds with every drop of innocent blood, weeps with every tear of the violated, grieves on the mourner’s bench with every suddenly-bereaved parent, sibling, or spouse, and is numbed with every shock of the traumatized. [I shudder to think of His emotional response to the case under discussion—where a spectator didn’t intervene because of some theodicy argument—! It is difficult for me to imagine many things more heart-breaking to Him than such a travesty of free will and moral orientation.] But it is we who are to blame for this—not God. This world, with all its powerful creative forces and this community, with its powerful value creation abilities, were given to us. It is our responsibility to prevent violent crime. It is our responsibility to create “stronger attractions” to good. It is our responsibility to accept this authority and quit shifting the blame to God, our histories, our tendencies, our pathologies, our situations, our nature.”

https://www.christian-thinktank.com/2stds.html


23 posted on 05/08/2024 9:21:54 AM PDT by Bob434
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