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Confessions of a "Single Issue Voter"
March 17th, 2002 | Sabertooth

Posted on 03/17/2002 1:36:37 PM PST by Sabertooth

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To: jwalsh07
I too am a single issue voter. My issue?

DEFEATING RATS

As I stated in my post, that was my issue for 10years.

Are you happy that Bush has risked such division among Republicans by pushing through this 245(i) Amnesty for 200,000 illegals last week?

Would so many Republicans be so disappointed with him this St. Patrick's Day, but for that?




61 posted on 03/17/2002 2:26:25 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Mark
..."I was all for GW until that one faitful day.... he wore a suit with a clashing tie! That did it for my one vote"....

I don't see your statement as any worse that the bimbo conservative women here who were having orgasms over a pair of jeans....telling others of us to forget everything we had ever read or heard about him or from him...just vote for him and be happy!

It's just a little odd that a guy would get hung up over what the dude was wearing!! LOL.

62 posted on 03/17/2002 2:27:50 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Sabertooth
Amnesty for illegal aliens is not in play. Extensions for those legally using the system is.
63 posted on 03/17/2002 2:27:58 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: McGavin999
It's that kind of thinking that got us 8 years of Bill Clinton.

The broken "Read My Lips" promise got us Clinton.




64 posted on 03/17/2002 2:28:02 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
ES IST VERBOTEN, STAAT SEKURITAT ZU KRITISIERON!
65 posted on 03/17/2002 2:29:09 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
But do you really want to empower "Read My Hips"?
66 posted on 03/17/2002 2:31:12 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
Amnesty for illegal aliens is not in play. Extensions for those legally using the system is.

Once again...

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment. Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.

Last week's 245(i) extension was specifically about Illegals.

Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.




67 posted on 03/17/2002 2:32:23 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Dr. Frank
"Like I said, single-issue voting is generally not healthy."

I dunno--I pretty much decide who gets my vote based on their support of the Second Amendment. It is a pretty good predictive indicator of how any given candidate feels about issues of "more government" vs. "individual freedom".

68 posted on 03/17/2002 2:33:44 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Travis McGee
I just sent off my letter to the Republican National Committee announcing my withdrawal from the party, and the reason why: They wont do a damn thing about immigration. I've also contacted my county Registrar about switching to Independent. Screw the Republicans. I thought they may have learned a lesson after 9-11, but evidently not.
69 posted on 03/17/2002 2:34:04 PM PST by cutlass
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To: Sabertooth
Last week when I came across you criticising Bush for 245(i) and the underlying law, you like all the rest, hadn't even read it.

Have you read it yet?

And no I am not much bothered by 245(i) but then again, I've read it.

70 posted on 03/17/2002 2:34:19 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: wasp69
If we can get the candidate who will do the least amount of damage, then "we the people" can push them to do as we wish. There are many examples of just that. We can do it if we remain united and the uniting force is FR.

It was the threat of disunity that took Amnesty off the table for the Bush visit with Fox in Monterey this month.

If they can take our unity for granted, we have no influence.




71 posted on 03/17/2002 2:34:59 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: cutlass
The Stupid Party or the Evil Party: not much of a choice.
72 posted on 03/17/2002 2:36:02 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: jwalsh07
See #67. Section 245(i) is about Illegals.



73 posted on 03/17/2002 2:36:26 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Diddle E. Squat
But do you really want to empower "Read My Hips"?

Funny, but if you'll recall, that was a Bush the Elder quip that he had to apologize for on his way to empowering Hillary's husband.




74 posted on 03/17/2002 2:38:23 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
It was the threat of disunity that took Amnesty off the table for the Bush visit with Fox in Monterey this month

Fox wants much, much more than 245(i). He's not happy with "taking amnesty off the table." Does that tell you something?

75 posted on 03/17/2002 2:39:23 PM PST by browardchad
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To: Sabertooth
"Among them are "racist," "xenophobe," "libertarian," "Buchananite," "knee-jerk," etc"

Don't forget "knuckle dragging Neanderthal."

76 posted on 03/17/2002 2:40:31 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: jwalsh07
Get a clue: nobody south of the border is going to read the esoterica of 245(i): they will only hear one word of it, loud and clear:

!AMNISTIA!

That will be the sole message of this Stupid Party bill: "the door is open, sneak in, hang around, and get amnesty sooner or later".

Get ready for new waves of millions of more illegals.

Truly the Stupid Party, and if you can't see that, then you are a perfect match.

77 posted on 03/17/2002 2:40:34 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: NittanyLion
Voting solely for one issue certainly hasn't helped these groups' plight, as one can see by looking at the black vote. Reliably voting for DEM candidates 90-10 has only succeeded in getting blacks' vote taken for granted.

Well, but on the other hand, this coalition has paid off for the pro-abortion zealots. I'm not sure it's metaphysically possible for a pro-life person to get nominated as a Democrat - perhaps in some local areas, yes, but certainly not on the national stage. And the pro-abortion zealots have poisoned the atmosphere to such a large extent that, as I mentioned, in places like California they've even got the Republican party convinced they need to nominate only people devoted to the Pro-Choice god.

All this (arguably) without even having a majority of the country ever considering themselves "pro-choice" in the first place.

I would say that an accurate description of the situation is this: the Democratic party is made up primarily of a coalition of convenience between single-issue pro-abortionists, and racial spoils-system devotees - with the former taking advantage of, paying condescending lip service to, and in the end (like you said) taking for granted, the support of the latter, in order to magnify their power. It hasn't been healthy (for them or for the country).

You ask about the Republican party. I was going to say that the Republcan party runs less of a risk of all this, because conservative people in general tend not to be "single-issue" voters. However, I think I see your (and indeed Sabertooth's) point that to some extent, the opinions of conservatives are taken for granted by the Republican party. The question is, why can they get away with doing this, and remain secure that they will have our vote? The only answer is: Because they're not Democrats. We will vote for them because if we don't, those nasty Democrats will have power.

But why do we think Democrats are so nasty? Because, in general, they are :) And why is this true of them? To some extent it's because of the way they are dominated by... you guessed it... single-issue-zealot voters (such as on the issue of abortion).

Like I said, single-issue voters are not healthy, for that party, or for the country.

78 posted on 03/17/2002 2:41:09 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: bjcintennessee
245(i) allows aliens who came here on temporary visas and put down roots and started families to have their status reviewed. Once all these people re-register, then all other aliens could be rounded up and deported.
See post #67. Section 245 applies to these folks, not 245(i).

245(i) does not apply to the 3 million illegal aliens who snuck across our borders without paperwork.

True, it applies to some specific 200,000 or so illegals. As I read it, this is an extension of what was originally a Clinton/Gore mini-amnesty.



79 posted on 03/17/2002 2:42:10 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Say it ain't so, Saber. If you lived in any other state other than California, I could believe that you've gotten fed up with the Republican party. But y'all, republicans that is, need to seriously work towards electing more Republicans that will support the Republican platform of lower taxes, protecting our borders, welfare reform, etc.

It wouldn't hurt getting rid of men like Jeffords and any others Senators that are compromised to not support the Presidents efforts.

If I'm not mistaken it was Bill Clinton who made a mess of the immigration issue by wanting to allow so many illegal alians citizenship into Our country. It will take much wisdom for Bush and his administration to clean up another of Clinton's indiscretions.

Clinton Demands Deal for Illegals

California Law Facilitates Alien Voters

We really do need to stay focused on who the real adversary is. There is such a stranglehold on California by the Dems, I'm sure if we can get a breakthrough in Cali and Nevada with Sen. Reid replaced with a Republican, the President could quite possibly accomplish an Agenda for America and safeguarding every aspect of what we hold dear-Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness with security on our borders.

If not Bush then who? Who would you like to see as our current leader that has the ability to speak with authority on what needs to be done; who has garnered enough support to go after those who have been planning America's destruction. Let us remember the Dem's, by some cunning manner, usurped the majority in the Senate and they now have the ability to bring their agenda to the floor.

80 posted on 03/17/2002 2:42:38 PM PST by swheats
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