[RoadGumby]

Nice cut and paste. I will return a rebuttal in due time. In the mean time, count on your works for salvation, let me know how that works out for you.

[johngrace]

It's a matter of maintain what you have from Christ. Your are at first initially saved. Then you you have to live the life. I did not think nor say you are not a Christian. I think people take it personally when people talk in a general term. Only God truly knows till the end of a Life.

But I have a Friend Who because of this "once saved always saved" He is an ex-Catholic who massages women all the way to bed in their new indy churches. Why because "once saved always saved". This is what he told me.He is married or was. Your not accountable anymore. God will make me perfect. What a joke? Pathetic. Then if you point it out to someone =Well he was never saved! What! He believes because of this Tomfoolery to begin with from the get-go.

I always think of this Crazy extreme. Meaning this can lead to this example. Not that It has any thing to do with you. My real faithful Indy friends believe this in the context of the stewardship of his grace. But when I come across this other type and they truly believe it. Thats Lunacy.