Posted on 05/10/2008 4:07:27 PM PDT by levotb
I've heard from a number of freepers in recent threads telling me, "A vote for a third party candidate is a vote for Obama". In an attempt to FINALLY put that idiocy to rest, I'm devoting this thread solely to that subject.
"Let logic prevail!", I always say. Well, there IS no logic to the above statement IF the voter in question (who has decided to vote third party in '08)
1) is not a registered Republican and
2) was never going to vote for McCain in the first place
Remember 1992, when Republicans (as many of them still do) blamed Ross Perot for GHW Bush's defeat by Bill Clinton? The Republican crybabies got it wrong then and apparently many of them are getting it wrong now, well before the election. They blamed a lot of folks (who were never going to vote for GHW Bush UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and who weren't registered Republicans) for handing the Presidency to Clinton. How can you in all honesty blame people for your aging candidate's poorly run campaign on those who wanted somebody else? Remember that video of the President fainting at the dinner table of the Japanese Prime Minister prior to the election? Remember his ominous "New World Order" comment in Bush's speeches in 1990 and 1991? Remember his "Read my lips!" lie? Remember how it was being said that Bush "didn't have his heart in running again and it showed"? If you run a lousy campaign and lie to the American people, you deserve to lose! But (Republicans) blaming Perot and those who voted for him is a lot like liberals always blaming crime on anyone BUT the criminal!
Remember how they blamed Pat Buchanan instead of Bob Dole in 1996 for handing Clinton another 4 years? Newt Gingrich and other supposed "conservatives" who pushed NAFTA through for Clinton in 1994 and had betrayed real conservatives in other areas--along with being blamed by the MNM in 1994 for "shutting down the Government"--all of these plus the continued good economy in 1996 AND YET ANOTHER OLD BILLIONAIRE RINO (this one, with one arm) and his liberal idiot sidekick Jack Kemp were the REAL reasons why Clinton won re-election, NOT Pat Buchanan's "pulling Republican voters away from Bush"!
I haven't been a Republican since 1996. Does that mean that 12 years after leaving that party, I'm to blame a McCain loss to Obama in November even though I would never have voted for McCain under ANY circumstances? Of course not!
A case could be made for REGISTERED REPUBLICANS who vote third party in this election having betrayed McCain, but no one else. And even some of them--the more conservative registered Republicans--shouldn't be blamed for voting for a third party candidate as McCain is very simply a pro-war liberal, someone who is diametrically opposed to everything they stand for.
But, don't let "logic" get in the way of any preconceived notions!
I’ve been registered as a Republican for 22 years. I’m on the fence about what to do this election. If I do not vote for McCain, it’s not me betraying the party. It’s because the Republican party betrayed me.
I’m a fiscal conservative and I’m so angry about the empty fiscal reform promises I’m seeing red. The Bush administration has been about doing nothing but war, even then they messed that up and didn’t want to acknowledge it while our finest died in the streets of Iraq. They had to lose an election before they did what was necessary to fix the mess. And becaue they didn’t get business taken care of in Gitmo, we’ve had SCOTUS step in and now we have the Judiciary involved. We’re going to end up with these murderous lunatics on our shores. Why couldn’t they just try these guys long ago and get it over with?
I am so tired of being hosed at the gas pump, ripped off by the debauching of our currency, fed up with the economic problems, federal agencies running amuck and getting nothing important done while putting some people out of business for minor infractions to look like they are doing something while Rome burns.
It feels like voting Republican is voting for all of that. I simply won’t do it. Even if McCain is sincere about doing important things, he can’t do it alone. Even if he wanted to do the majoirty of things I want it is rather meaningless when congress acts like they are there to wheel and deal for self enrichment instead of doing big things for we the people. I’m sorry, but it looks like if McCain wins he will be entirely useless. It’s time the pubbies wake up to that fact.
Nice Fearmongering. You certainly sold me. I am sure glad you came out swinging with your best argument.
this whole thread proves to me that things are lost in this country. The evil Obama is the new boogey man for the republicans.
Getting McCain elected is one thing.. but concentration should have been done to keep the present republicans and the challenging republicans elected into the senate and house this year too.
This way.. even if Obama is elected.. you have votes for fillabuster in the repsective houses to over ride a Obama Veto
Now we've learned that Republicans are prostitutes, based on KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle's hackneyed misattributing of a George Bernard Shaw quote to Groucho Marx.
The shout is "hear, hear."
Obama is the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate. He's running for President. Of course Republicans campaign against him and point out the potential dangers of an Obama Presidency.
Getting McCain elected is one thing.. but concentration should have been done to keep the present republicans and the challenging republicans elected into the senate and house this year too.
Sarah Palin has energized the base. Her candidacy is already showing signs of providing coattails up and down the Republican ballot roster.
This way.. even if Obama is elected.. you have votes for fillabuster in the repsective houses to over ride a Obama Veto
The words are "filibuster," "respective" and "override." The correct indefinite article preceding "Obama" is "an." All sentences should end with periods.
Thank you.
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