Posted on 05/10/2008 4:07:27 PM PDT by levotb
I've heard from a number of freepers in recent threads telling me, "A vote for a third party candidate is a vote for Obama". In an attempt to FINALLY put that idiocy to rest, I'm devoting this thread solely to that subject.
"Let logic prevail!", I always say. Well, there IS no logic to the above statement IF the voter in question (who has decided to vote third party in '08)
1) is not a registered Republican and
2) was never going to vote for McCain in the first place
Remember 1992, when Republicans (as many of them still do) blamed Ross Perot for GHW Bush's defeat by Bill Clinton? The Republican crybabies got it wrong then and apparently many of them are getting it wrong now, well before the election. They blamed a lot of folks (who were never going to vote for GHW Bush UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and who weren't registered Republicans) for handing the Presidency to Clinton. How can you in all honesty blame people for your aging candidate's poorly run campaign on those who wanted somebody else? Remember that video of the President fainting at the dinner table of the Japanese Prime Minister prior to the election? Remember his ominous "New World Order" comment in Bush's speeches in 1990 and 1991? Remember his "Read my lips!" lie? Remember how it was being said that Bush "didn't have his heart in running again and it showed"? If you run a lousy campaign and lie to the American people, you deserve to lose! But (Republicans) blaming Perot and those who voted for him is a lot like liberals always blaming crime on anyone BUT the criminal!
Remember how they blamed Pat Buchanan instead of Bob Dole in 1996 for handing Clinton another 4 years? Newt Gingrich and other supposed "conservatives" who pushed NAFTA through for Clinton in 1994 and had betrayed real conservatives in other areas--along with being blamed by the MNM in 1994 for "shutting down the Government"--all of these plus the continued good economy in 1996 AND YET ANOTHER OLD BILLIONAIRE RINO (this one, with one arm) and his liberal idiot sidekick Jack Kemp were the REAL reasons why Clinton won re-election, NOT Pat Buchanan's "pulling Republican voters away from Bush"!
I haven't been a Republican since 1996. Does that mean that 12 years after leaving that party, I'm to blame a McCain loss to Obama in November even though I would never have voted for McCain under ANY circumstances? Of course not!
A case could be made for REGISTERED REPUBLICANS who vote third party in this election having betrayed McCain, but no one else. And even some of them--the more conservative registered Republicans--shouldn't be blamed for voting for a third party candidate as McCain is very simply a pro-war liberal, someone who is diametrically opposed to everything they stand for.
But, don't let "logic" get in the way of any preconceived notions!
As I wrote you on another thread, it’s a free country: You are certainly welcome to go into the sanctity of the voting booth and vote third party or write-in Daffy Duck or even Ron Paul. But don’t come crying to me a year from now because of your taxes going up to pay for reparations, Muslim indoctrination in your kid’s schools, and the martial law that President Obama declared after the gun confiscation riots.
True. Would those same people vote for Lieberman?
Has it occurred to you that if you do vote for a third party candidiate, and should McCain win, both you and your third party will have been reduced to political insignificance?
However, the 2000 election was decided by the third party vote. The Naderites would have voted for Gore over Bush if they had to choose between the two and there were more than enough of them in Florida alone to push Gore over the edge.
Which loser are you going to waste your vote on?
Without a candidate they simply don't vote.
Frankly, they'll be out this time to vote for Obama so you might take that into consideration.
hey, you forgot to mention the democrat voting machines!
Yes - it is. Vote for a third and it's a vote for Obama.
And how would that would be different than McCain treats conservatives now?
****But, don’t let “logic” get in the way of any preconceived notions!*****
I admire a person who follows his/her own advice. Well done sir/madam.
BUMPed for simple (and wholly irrefutable) logic. Superb in every particular.
Hmmmm....I’m sure in the end, you’ll do whats best for America and your fellow Americans...even if it does’nt make you “feel” all that good....
In ordinary times I may agree with you (probably Not though) but something in that last sentence should jump out at you and that is the word “war”.
We are at war with a determined enemy who’s only goal is to kill us at any and all cost.
One of the Democrat party’s primary campaign planks is to get us out of the one of the war’s main theaters.
To cast a vote not supporting the only candidate that has a chance of winning who supports the continued aggressive prosecution of the war is not only illogical but suicidal.
Is six a half of a dozen, are is one half of twelve????
Nope, I don't recall that at all. I recall Clinton being an very popular incumbant, in a good economy, universally expected to sail to re-election. Most considered Dole as the sacrificial lamb who was put up mostly for long years of service who did not have a chance. At least that's how I remember it.
You may want to weigh in on this.
82nd Abn...No one can say it better than you!
Well said and amen.
I look forward to the first Obama State of the Union when he will propose that all citizens over the age of 6 obtain a Federal (FCC) license to blog. It might not be all bad!
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