[2ndDivisionVet]

As I wrote you on another thread, it’s a free country: You are certainly welcome to go into the sanctity of the voting booth and vote third party or write-in Daffy Duck or even Ron Paul. But don’t come crying to me a year from now because of your taxes going up to pay for reparations, Muslim indoctrination in your kid’s schools, and the martial law that President Obama declared after the gun confiscation riots.

[raybbr]

...as McCain is very simply a pro-war liberal, someone who is diametrically opposed to everything they stand for.

True. Would those same people vote for Lieberman?

[curmudgeonII]

CYA, my friend.

Has it occurred to you that if you do vote for a third party candidiate, and should McCain win, both you and your third party will have been reduced to political insignificance?

[KarlInOhio]

For President GHW Bush to win in 1992, he would have needed 2/3 of the Perot votes. A lot of those votes were from angry Democrats instead of angry Republicans. Even if they had split 65% Bush/35% Clinton then Clinton would have won.

However, the 2000 election was decided by the third party vote. The Naderites would have voted for Gore over Bush if they had to choose between the two and there were more than enough of them in Florida alone to push Gore over the edge.

[Dog Gone]

Which loser are you going to waste your vote on?

[ripley]

hey, you forgot to mention the democrat voting machines!

[GOPJ]

A vote for a third party candidate is a vote for Obama"

Yes - it is. Vote for a third and it's a vote for Obama.

[mkjessup]

You pathetic piece of sh*t, you should be ashamed of yourself for spouting off something like AND YET ANOTHER OLD BILLIONAIRE RINO (this one, with one arm)

referring to Bob Dole.

Dole may have been a poor candidate, he may not have been right on all the issues, and some might say he wasn't all that conservative but the fact is, he damn near lost that arm (he actually has two, and one is barely functional) defending America and Freedom in World War II, and you, ya pipsqueak have no business making snide remarks about it.

If you have any self-respect at all, you'll have the mods nuke this abysmal excuse for a thread before they do it for you.

Shame on you.

[sodpoodle]

****But, don’t let “logic” get in the way of any preconceived notions!*****

I admire a person who follows his/her own advice. Well done sir/madam.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

A case could be made for REGISTERED REPUBLICANS who vote third party in this election having betrayed McCain, but no one else.

BUMPed for simple (and wholly irrefutable) logic. Superb in every particular.

[mo]

Hmmmm....I’m sure in the end, you’ll do whats best for America and your fellow Americans...even if it does’nt make you “feel” all that good....

[Pontiac]

And even some of them--the more conservative registered Republicans--shouldn't be blamed for voting for a third party candidate as McCain is very simply a pro-war liberal, someone who is diametrically opposed to everything they stand for.

In ordinary times I may agree with you (probably Not though) but something in that last sentence should jump out at you and that is the word “war”.

We are at war with a determined enemy who’s only goal is to kill us at any and all cost.

One of the Democrat party’s primary campaign planks is to get us out of the one of the war’s main theaters.

To cast a vote not supporting the only candidate that has a chance of winning who supports the continued aggressive prosecution of the war is not only illogical but suicidal.

[joebuck]

"Remember how they blamed Pat Buchanan instead of Bob Dole in 1996 for handing Clinton another 4 years?"

Nope, I don't recall that at all. I recall Clinton being an very popular incumbant, in a good economy, universally expected to sail to re-election. Most considered Dole as the sacrificial lamb who was put up mostly for long years of service who did not have a chance. At least that's how I remember it.

[MrEdd]

I am a conservative not a Republican. I will vote for Republicans IF they are conservative. If Bush's opponent had not been Hanoi John Kerry, I would not have voted in the last election.

Islam's war against the west will inevitably bring the US a nuclear strike. The persistent open borders are a hot potato that will utterly destroy the party in power when it happens. I prefer that the borders be closed - but barring that, let it be the liberals who are destroyed if we're not going to move to prevent it.

This is as obvious and foreseeable as the earlier attacks on September eleventh. Aside from the loss we all will have of family and friends WHEN not if this happens, I recognize that the party who emerges in power will be able to radically reshape government the United States. Many on the left foresee this as well, and are actively working to keep our defenses weak.

I therefore am willing to sacrifice important pieces to win the game. Winning the white house or congress are less important than closing the borders. A candidate who could win an office, at the cost of placing someone in office that the left could justifiably claim failed to aggressively defend America costs conservatism control of the board.

By the same token I will not move to save a socially liberal republican candidate merely to defeat the democrat. Sometimes control of the board is more important than saving every pawn.

If I get a liberal in office who votes liberal while claiming (unchallenged) to represent the party with a conservative platform, then my voice is even more unheard than if a liberal democrat is in office. It means that conservatives will vote for anyone who claims conservatism, even if they are to the left of Hillary Clinton. It also means that the Republican party did this eyes wide open, believing that I (and other conservatives) would vote for a yellow dog if it was a republican. Sorry RNC that only works with democrats.

Semper Fidelis

[PugetSoundSoldier]

Newt Gingrich and other supposed "conservatives"

You for real? If Newt Gingrich wasn't a conservative then, well what's your standard for a conservative?

Tell me who you're going to vote for, and why. Stop your bellyaching about why you don't support one candidate or the other, how about telling us who you support and why we should support them, too!

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

FReepers and conservatives voted for Hillary to keep her sorry butt in the Rat primaries. Why would they be upset if others vote 3rd party in the general?

I have no intention of voting for McCain; this may be the first election I'm sitting out since 1990.

[mysterio]

I agree. I vote for the candidate that stands behind restoring the Bill of Rights’ role in federal government and actively promotes smaller, less intrusive government. Any candidate that doesn’t stand for those issues is a candidate that doesn’t want my vote.

[Hugin]

Voting third party is political masturbation. It feels good, but accomplishes nothing.

[Man50D]

I couldn't agree more with the essential point that Republicans have abandon conservatism while using conservatives as a scapegoat to deflect attention from the GOP's deliberate move towards increasing socialism within the party. The motivation for this misguided notion is the expansion of the voter base that can only be accomplished by appealing to socialists. The desire to garner the maximum votes possible is interpreted as a victory but at what cost? It can hardly be considered a victory when the compensation for more votes is acquiescing power to the very group of people who seek the destruction of our Democratic Republic.

I do respectfully disagree with your premise there will be third party voters. The leader of the GOP, George Bush and the presumptive GOP nominee both favor granting amnesty to illegal aliens. This position is inherently dangerous on on more than one level. Most importantly it gives terrorists easier access into the country and destroy us from within our own borders. Second, Failing to strictly enforce our existing immigration laws only invites chaos. A nation that fails to abide by it's own laws soon ceases to be a nation. Third, it encourages foreigners not to assimilate to the American culture while making it incumbent upon Americans to assimilate to a multitude of cultures all in the name of diversity. Fourth, the economic cost of allowing illegal aliens into the country is an unbearable drain on the nation's economy.

McCain and Bush both have bought into the myth of human induced global warming. McCain has gone to the extreme of sponsoring a bill(McCain-Lieberman Stewardship Climate Act) based on this fallacy. This will only bring more regulation taking more power and freedom away from the people and into the relatively small few who run the government. This is not what our founding fathers intended when they wrote the Constitution. Such abrogation of the people's power is anathema to the Constitution. Additionally McCain endorses further usurpation of the people's power by limiting free speech as a sponsor of the McCain-Feingold bill. Additionally McCain in 2001 actively sought out the Democrats to become a member of their party and was considered by John Kerry as a potential running mate

The positions and histories of these men clearly show they support ideals in alignment with the socialist Democrats. This makes it increasingly difficult to see a distinct difference between the two party. It is evident the Republican leadership are in the process of merging the party with the socialist Democrats. It is clear considering all these facts the are essentially one party. Supporting another party will restore the two party system.

[svcw]

1. GHWB did not faint on the prime minister of Japan - he threw up on him.
2. GHWB did not say “no new taxes” he said “no nude Texans”.