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Billy Graham Responds to Lingering Anger Over 1972 Remarks on Jews
AP via NY Times ^ | March 17, 2002 | AP via NY Times

Posted on 03/16/2002 8:03:22 PM PST by churchillbuff

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To: a_witness
No, Graham denied every saying anything negative about Jews to Nixon. He lied.

Untrue. Please provide a source for Graham making the denial of "ever saying anything negative about Jews to Nixon." Otherwise I must conclude that YOU are lying, or at least misquoting and exagerating. Here is his quoted denial which I gave the source to in my post#35. Did you even read it???

Within seconds, we have a list of the 64 relevant entries and are reading Nixon telling Haldeman that the Rev. Billy Graham "has the strong feeling that the Bible says that there are satanic Jews and that's where our problem arises."34

34 Graham has denied the quote, saying "These are not my words and this does not reflect the high view I hold for the nation of Israel and for Jewish people, many of whom are my close friends." Quoted in James M. Perry, "Book-CD Pairing is Sure to Start a Trend," San Diego Union-Tribune, June 7, 1994, p. 10.

I see your standards in a minister approach those of Bill and Hillary. Were you ever a defense attorney or spokesman for Mr. Clinton ?

You present a strawman arguement here, and never answered the question, a_witness. My question was, "if we had YOUR private conversations on tape, and picked out just one conversation, could we "prove" you were a bigot?"

As far as your Clinton strawman analogy, there's a difference between prejudicial comments in private conversation and historical lawbreaking and corruption. My standards are consistent. I think Graham was wrong for the comments he made as taped, but they aren't the comments you and others attribute to him. Graham apologized for his private 1972 comments. Now, its time to get over it.

61 posted on 03/17/2002 3:24:43 PM PST by Enlightiator
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To: a_witness
Jews have not always make a distinction between righteous Gentiles and those who are aligned with the adversary. Since there are so many CINOs who betray them it is a difficult endeavour.

When you refer to 'Jews' in you statement, are you referring to real Jews, or JINO's?

62 posted on 03/17/2002 4:39:31 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: Enlightiator
Please provide a source for Graham making the denial of "ever saying anything negative about Jews to Nixon."

Enlighten yourself. It is in the posted article.

63 posted on 03/17/2002 6:07:14 PM PST by a_witness
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To: PhilipFreneau
When you refer to 'Jews' in you statement, are you referring to real Jews, or JINO's?

That would be Jews that your friends haven't killed yet.

64 posted on 03/17/2002 6:08:13 PM PST by a_witness
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To: Enlightiator
My question was, "if we had YOUR private conversations on tape, and picked out just one conversation, could we "prove" you were a bigot?"

You don't have a question. You simply want to remove the office and high calling that Mr. Graham said he was called to from the equation. You have fallen short of the mark.

65 posted on 03/17/2002 6:13:00 PM PST by a_witness
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To: churchillbuff
Graham spoke of a Jewish "stranglehold" on the media.

What's pathetic about this Graham incident is that people have been so beaten down by political correctness that no one is bothering ask the obvious question.

Namely, why would a man of Graham's stature make such a remark about the Jews?

66 posted on 03/17/2002 6:19:14 PM PST by Blade
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To: Enlightiator
Another HUGE double standard exhibited by the LIBS!
67 posted on 03/17/2002 6:23:49 PM PST by Alissa
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To: Blade
Namely, why would a man of Graham's stature make such a remark about the Jews?
68 posted on 03/17/2002 6:42:00 PM PST by a_witness
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To: Blade
What's pathetic about this Graham incident is that people have been so beaten down by political correctness that no one is bothering ask the obvious question.

That can't be true.

David Duke and friends are asking (and recruiting).

In every generation the adversary has risen up against us. It is by the mercies of God that we are not consumed, and no thanks to you.

69 posted on 03/17/2002 6:44:40 PM PST by a_witness
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To: a_witness
David Duke and friends are asking (and recruiting).

Another rote cliche. How typical. You know, in our few brief exchanges, I have come to expect so little of you, and you always deliver.

Your remarks don't matter. The Reverand Graham has done more to bring people to God than you and your Israeli syncophants have done or ever will do.

70 posted on 03/17/2002 7:13:32 PM PST by Blade
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To: churchillbuff
One shudders to think what the Holy Man as eager apparently to please powerful men as Monica Lewinsky, only with decades more experience, what this Holy Man, no relation to rock promoter Bill Graham, a Jew, said to his heroes of the moment Leonid Brezhnev and Billy Jeff Krintong when he found himself in their presence.
71 posted on 03/17/2002 7:29:57 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: a_witness
That would be Jews that your friends haven't killed yet.

You make no sense, Sonny. My friends have killed no one to my knowledge (well, one or two may have killed the enemy in Vietnam, but, again, not to my knowledge). Certainly you are not referring to Americans who have armed (and continue to arm) the State of Israel with some of the most modern, hi-tech weaponry to ensure its survival amidst the mad-dogs of Islam. Nor could you possibly be referring to the American Christians who Rabbi Lapin deem to be great friends of the Jews.

Maybe you have been tricked into believing that those of us who despise phony Jews, such as Schumer and Feinstein, despise decent honorable Jews, as well. Or, maybe you are just another low-life, Christian-hating bigot.

Whatever the case, you are certainly not going to make any friends among Christians until you become a little more objective (a little less irrational.)

72 posted on 03/17/2002 7:40:08 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: Blade
The Reverand Graham has done more to bring people to God than you and your Israeli syncophants have done or ever will do.

What's funny is that by your definition, even Billy Graham would be an Israeli syncophant
73 posted on 03/17/2002 8:21:59 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: Blade
Another rote cliche.

There were at least two posted articles tonight, one of which espoused the cause you espouse, before they were deleted by the moderators.

Perhaps Mr. Graham, by a sincere and heartfelt repentance, will lead others to God.

74 posted on 03/17/2002 8:28:58 PM PST by a_witness
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To: PhilipFreneau
Maybe you have been tricked into believing that those of us who despise phony Jews, such as Schumer and Feinstein,

How many weapons do you have at home, and how do you plan to use them to take care of the Jews you despise
before the LORD God of Israel sends your soul to .... ?

75 posted on 03/17/2002 8:30:48 PM PST by a_witness
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To: churchillbuff
Lingering anger, what lingering anger?
76 posted on 03/17/2002 8:32:07 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Hacksaw
Comparing Billy Graham to Jesse Jackson is a horrible slur.

Not at all. Both claim the title of Reverend and both have solicited a large amount of money over their careers. Their race and politics are different. Jackson fathered a child out of wedlock and there have been no reports of infidelity on Graham's part. Jackson was caught slurring the Jewish people and now Graham is repenting and apologizing for his bigotry of nearly 30 years ago. Comparisons are fair. You simply fear the truth because you are emotionally attached to Graham or what he symbolizes to you.

77 posted on 03/17/2002 9:29:25 PM PST by a_witness
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To: a_witness
How many weapons do you have at home, and how do you plan to use them to take care of the Jews you despise before the LORD God of Israel sends your soul to .... ?

You are talking crazy. Have you been skipping your medication?

78 posted on 03/18/2002 10:19:02 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: churchillbuff
BUMP
79 posted on 03/19/2002 8:54:23 AM PST by Aurelius
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
"Who would have thought that seemingly upright evangelical Christians were capable of such racial and ethnic hatred?"

Graham's statement about there being "total Jewish domination of the media" may be factually incorrect. However, to perceive it, mistakenly or not, as being correct, and to see it as a cause for concern, if correct, is not in itself indicative of "racial and ethnic hatred".

80 posted on 03/19/2002 9:02:39 AM PST by Aurelius
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