I don't understand why Bush risking handing over the country to them on an issue that's so wrong?
Posted on 03/17/2002 1:36:37 PM PST by Sabertooth
For the past 10 years, I voted Republican, rain or shine. I was a single-issue voter.
My only concern was that the candidate be a Republican.
Why?
Because I don't like what the Democrat Party has done to America.
This year, another issue arises that concerns me greatly… so much so, that I might not be voting Republican this November. I'll maintain my GOP registration, but my vote is suddenly in play, where it hadn't been for 10 years.
That issue is: Illegal Immigration, and Federal Amnesties for Illegals.
Some agree, and some don't… that's fine. In any event, I've been active and vehement on the Illegal threads, to the displeasure of not a few. I've been called a few names, and that's to be expected (goes with being a Republican, no?) Among them are "racist," "xenophobe," "libertarian," "Buchananite," "knee-jerk," etc… And…
"Single-issue voter."
As though that's somehow damning. I was a single-issue voter beore, but now it's just a different issue. What bothers some is that it's a different single issue than theirs. Further, I don't really understand those who use this term in the pejorative… Is there no issue, position, or policy on which the GOP could lose your vote? Is there no circumstance under which you would part ways?
Your right to vote is your currency in the Political Economy. If your support is never in doubt, what is the incentive of politicians to listen to you? Do you continue to patronize restaurants with good food and bad service? Or do you let your wallet do the talking?
If so, then why should politics be any different?
How do you feel when arrogant party functionaries mock you, asking "Do you want Hillary?" or "You gonna vote Democrat?" or some other such demagoguery? Are we nothing but pawns?
Or do moments arise when notice must be loudly given to our "leaders," who serve at our pleasure, that there will be an electoral price paid for failing to heed the will of the American People?
I don't understand why Bush risking handing over the country to them on an issue that's so wrong?
Your 70% figure is probably the % of people who are against a blanket amnesty. He hasn't proposed a blanket amnesty, no matter how many times you have told us differently.
You can go back to your tantrum.
If Bush throws away votes by ignoring the will of 70% of the American People on an issue that's wrong on principle, a Democrat President will be his own fault.That is fine, Sabre! TELL HIM HE IS DOING THE WRONG THING, then! I won't oppose you on THAT!He should know that, and we should tell him.
He works for us.
Please DON'T hand the country over to the ArseHoles we had the previous 8 years. Did YOU enjoy that?.............................
Do you never tire of this straw man?
I've never claimed Bush was for "blanket amnesty." I've acknowledged that he's said he's not for it.
What I've said is that it's a Clintonian promise, because he could Amnesty 10 million and still be technically telling the truth. It's spin and damge control.
Ask President Bush the Elder, who threw his 91% popularity in the crapper by being nice to liberals. I voted for him, BTW.
Let me ask you, if a husband cheats on his wife knowing she'll leave...
Whose fault is the divorce?
An analogous reaction would be to attack Mexico and other sources of illegel immigration to the US. Won't happen.
Amnesty will be the utter Surrender of our borders.
The Surrender of the Borders came first, then amnesty, as a consequence.
If we pretend the Illegals are desirable by granting them an Amnesty as a reward for their lawlessness, we will be growing the subculture.
The alternative is to grow the underground economy, social unrest, alienation, poverty, resentment....to add to the problem.
No deal... This was the broken promise of the Amnesty of '86. There must be substantial deportations from the interior.
Don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen.
I don't understand why Bush risking handing over the country to them on an issue that's so wrong?So, let me make sure I understand this. You'd hand over this country to the likes of Tom Daschle because you have an issue with a conservative?????????..................
Just curious, Sabertooth, where is that stat coming from?
Bush risks handing over the country to the Democrats because he's apparently hell-bent on doing the wrong thing, against the will of the people.
Bush is the problem here. He works for us. If you'll vote for him no matter what, then you work for him.
Please DON'T hand the country over to the ArseHoles we had the previous 8 years. Did YOU enjoy that?.............................
There seems to be no real difference -- except with George W. Bush the liberal agenda comes with a Republican at the helm.
GWB couldn't even muster a majority of the popular vote in the last election, and what does he do? Grants amnesty to illegal hispanics to try and court hispanic voters that went 7 to 1 against him in the last election. Good God, what a joke.
Bush will be a one term loser.
Just about any poll I've seen on the subject. The sentiment against illegals is even stronger since 9/11.
The Census Bureau's own estimates clearly demonstrate that amnesties don't solve the problem of illegal immigration.
Although 2.7 million of the estimated 5 million illegal aliens living in the country in 1986 were given amnesty (legal permanent residence), the new estimates (2000)indicated that they have been entirely replaced by new illegal aliens and that by census year 2000 the illegal population was 3 million larger than before the last amnesty.
Long story short, and in other words - it just doesn't work.
The preference of the congressmen was also to keep the voting record on this issue from the roll call by holding a voice vote. Only at the insistence of one representative - Tom Tancredo, did the House actually decide to finally record the vote.
Would someone like to explain to the class what exactly that was all about as well?
Somewhere along the line, the problem also lies with the legislative branch, not just the INS. Both the congress and senate have failed to provide either money or the necessary political support the INS has needed over the years.
Sorry -- not good enough. I doubt that 70% of Americans even know what amnesty means -- and a good percentage of the population are recent immigrants.
Bush will be a one term loser.You have the right to vote for little tommy daschle in 2004. Or not, it's YOUR decision. Personally, I can't stand the basta**!
The liberal pukes that have turned our society on it's ear were elected by recently naturalized citizens and massive vote fraud perpetrated by illegal aliens. If we allow this to continue, we'll lose every other major issue at the ballot box.
Our side simply won't have the votes anymore.
Name one decision that Bush has decided on by the polls. Bush is your worst nightmare, he does what he feels is right, not on what 80% of the country appear to say in polls. You hated Clinton, I assume, when his every decision was based on a focus group but when Bush takes a stand on his principles you can't wait to howl about the POLLS. I have a secret for you, IMO Bush does not think about his re-election. Bush is there to do a job to the best of his ability and if that is not enough then he will go back to Texas and never look back.
Legal immigrants don't have much use for Illegals.
You have the right to vote for little tommy daschle in 2004.
Why does it matter when Bush is busy implementing Daschle's agenda?
Maybe you'll see that I'm right when GWB signs CFR -- you're dreaming if you think he's not going to do it.
"Bush Says he won't legalize immigrants" posted on FR by JohnHuang2 a couple of days ago. If you read some of the comments, you will see that it became a major Bush-bashing thread. Some were ready to toss Bush because it appeared he had taken a poll (Clinton-style) and caved in to popular demand.
If they were really under the radar how could we tell them from those not Amnestied?
Traffic stops? Periodic raids of carpet mills and tomato fields? If they don't have a 'green card' deport them.
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