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To: Brian Allen
Save your smarmy,patronizing conceit , and do try to concentrate on the subject at hand. You do seem somewhat bright , and I'm sure that you'll soon get up to speed, dear.

Why do I keep talking about one certain race ? What race are Mugabe, Mbeki, and Obasanjo ? What race are those who are responsible for the deterioration of Detroit ? What race is Marion Berry ? What race employs such tactics as necklacing ? Did Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and Lenin necklace the opposition ?

Far more than Marxism / Socialism / Communism is at work in Africa. Whether you want to ignore it or not, tribalism and ancient blood fueds are in this mix. We don't have that in the USA. If you want to say that America is at risk for a Commie like take over, then say so. Don't say that what has happened in South Africa , Zimbabwe, Nigeria, etc., is a roadmap, for what might happen here. Words mean things. Those of you, who say that today's events, in Africa, is a foreshadowing of what could / will happen in the USA, is far fetched ! It is just as patently ridiculous, as those who keep typing that all whites should leave, and haven't an iota of an idea, that that is far and away, an almost impossibility.

Brian, you apparently haven't any knowledge of actual criminal history, in earlier times, in America. This country wasn't an Eden, where all was milk and honey. There were gangs, there was political crime / fraud that went unpunished, and it was just as bad, as those things are today ! Is Washington D.C. and Detroit and L.A. totally lawless ? No. Is crime very bad there ? Yes. Was it always this bad, in those places ? Probably not, but it was in other places, in other times. And, dear, THAT was my point.

With so many things to worry about and pay attention to, let's no fight about " maybes", " perhaps ", and " might " ; especially not when your crystal ball has a crack in it. : - )

79 posted on 03/19/2002 5:11:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons; shaggy eel
Save your smarmy,patronizing conceit .....

I won't read beyond that, thanks all the same.

Psychopathological Projection Syndrome [PPS] requires a level of professional attention far removed, thank God, from my fields of expertise.

I must thank you, though, for having shared the various interesting theories you've created from such limited resources as your relative's perspective, from your reading and from your otherwise imagined African experiences.

Tunnel vision and PPS notwithstanding, my experience of your African obsession has been interesting -- fun even -- and not least because the spectator quality of your Africa "experience" and the hypotheticals developed from it seems to have elevated you to realms out of reach of most of us.

Out of reach, for example, to those of us handicapped by [In addition to all of our physical experience of all of the rest of the world] having actually lived part, some, most and/or all of our lives in very many African countries -- and handicapped by having Africa's smells forever in our nostrils -- its rythms forever reverberating in our ears -- and further handicapped by having the shape of its thorn trees and the love of its Peoples forever part of our psyches.

And who have other, more interesting, feet on the ground, things to do than to theorize.

I will pray that you find a nice therapist to help with the PPS -- and that you have a nice life.

Cordially -- Brian.

87 posted on 03/19/2002 10:01:36 PM PST by Brian Allen
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