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Thanks LR, won't have to search too far tonight with these. I've read some of the personal info on Boren. If someone in power does not abuse his staff what he does at home is none of my business. However if he is still doing it on campus (work), that is an unacceptable event and the local media should expose such behavior.

As others here have pointed out, I'll be following the money.

Thanks for reposting that link.
M. Lamb. Hmm any relation to Sheeple as in American Sheeple?
Bet that surv. camera is outside Boren's office (Sarcasm).

>>links between Boren and the local news media

Guess I missed out on the party and everyone left that thread. Thats what happens when everybody is 3 hours ahead.

I know if any of us look into our congressmen and womens past we'll find more skeletons than we would want to. I expect nothing less from David Boren. I'm researching papers on his past and present actions.

I confronted the Dem leader Palosi in the early 90's, now look at her. Not giving Boren a pass.

Since Hinrichs roommate, Cheema was working deep in the locker rooms, knowing Boren, he probably relocated him to Head Ticket taker.

Seriously, if anyone attends a game, would be very interested to know if each gate, each person entering now has a video camera focused on them. And ones facing peoples backs don't count.

I'm researching newspapers regarding Boren's past.

CORX
Jayna (Davis)

Post 10.17.05

Mark Tapscott mentioned the press conference awhile back and posted the FBI release naming who Cole was briefed by. It was FBI’s Oklahoma bureau chief, Salvador Hernandez. Any new FBI updates?
Mr. Tom Cole, the Truth Shall set Ye Free!

Inhofe yet to speak out (thanks LibertyRocks). Maybe he’s letting Cole test the waters or have reservations or unanswered questions about what they told him.

Oct 13th, homelandsecurityus.com posted info on A. Nitrate. The FBI and Task Force need to explain why Hinrichs was trying to buy AN. I doubt they are even questioning every lead. According to Jayne, they still have interviews from ‘95 not done.

Any local newspaper stories regarding eyewitnesses? What happened to Adam Smith? Where is the reporter with guts asking about AN? Jayna maybe, does she report somewhere regularly?.

Not to get to far off subject, however, I was amazed that Fox News would spend a total of roughly 15 minutes on this story and a few web pages VS. 1,600+ hours on the Holloway case.

> Cole, though, is another matter. To my knowledge, his reputation is spotless, or was until he lied through his teeth on television.
MizSterious ck this out
Here is an interesting link from 1999 regarding OK newspaper responsibilities and I pulled an excerpt regarding Mr. Boren. The doc is 5 pgs long and takes fortitude to get through it. Only halfway myself. Looks like history is repeating itself in Mr. Boren’s taking care of #1.

Columbian Journalism Review, 1999
Reports by The Washington Post and The New York Times in June 1986 that Sen. William Armstrong, R-Colorado, and Sen. David Boren, D-Oklahoma, had sponsored “a one-of-a-kind, multimillion-dollar” tax break that would benefit only eight wealthy investors -- one of whom was publisher Ed Gaylord.
http://archives.cjr.org/year/99/1/worst.asp

If this is one in the same man and true he’ll just keep calling in mouth pieces.

Glad to be of help with the transcript.

Regarding more Fox News coverage, John Kasich interview Tom Hinrich and Congressman Tom Cole. Also for the record, I am sober and not a “conspiracy theorist”, just a concerned American like the rest of the freepers here stating facts and looking for answers.

Kasich asks, How much did you probe on this, how much did you push? Cole says, Pretty aggressive
Yet with the search warrant sealed and the justice dept. separate from congress, obviously he is not aware of anything more than what the FBI has informed him of.

At No time was “Ammonium Nitrate Fertilizer” mentioned. Kasich and Cole are accepting what they are being told, Kasich from Cole and Cole from the FBI. Neither have asked the right question!

Kasich: wanted to put this to bed. He does not even ask THE most important question about fertilizer which had two witnesses and the most undisputable aspect of this whole story. Cole could weasel out of this by saying he just accepted that the FBI told him the truth. Posted elsewhere here, Hinrich was thought to not be seen around the apt much and was always studying. Was he taking a 4H class and needed a large amount of AN for a science project? No Mr. Kasich you have just done a great disservice to the American people. You discuss “topics of interest to middle-america”. You did not even ask Mr. Cole what the FBI thought he would use the AN for. They sealed up everything in Hinrich’s apt. How long does the warrent stay sealed?

Stating more facts than the Major media has. Mr. Kasich ignored a story this big for weeks and now in his words “put it to bed” without pushing Cole for answers on the fertilizer. Talk about someone doing a job with no previous experience.

Why that method and location asks Kasich. Hinrich had nothing against football and nobody injured, says his brother.
Yet there was an eyewitness that was right near him at one point, lucky to be alive and a security guard indicating otherwise. If according to his father he would have choosen an open area, why not the expanse by the apartment seen in SAT images?

I posted the transcript, for those that may have missed the interview, and to reflect exactly what was said, including stutterings. Nothing to see, just keep moving along.

New info
"I got a great briefing by the special agent in charge; Hernandez".

The congressman said 'Jahidist’. Just typed it the way he pronounced it. Sent link to Ms. Malkin in case she missed the airing. He just spouted what the FBI said and the lead intro of "demanding answers" was a joke.

If I was Adam Smith and these people dismissed my story, I'd be yelling from the tops of the roof exactly what I saw and heard.

And congrats to Iraq and especially to our troops for passing another milestone!

Republican Congressman Tom Cole speaking on Hannity & Colmes on Fox News about OU Bomber [oubombing, normanbombing]

Following is a transcript from OCT 14 2005 9:18 ET
Lead-In, Alan Colmes: “An OK students suicide has set off a fire storm of debate whether this incident was part of a larger terror plot, we’ll talk to a congressman whose determined to get answers.” [Photo of Hinrich Head to waist with beard, Green shirt, blue jeans and what appears to be a cloth with blk criss cross patter w/White squares over a rock].

OCT 14 2005 9:22 ET
Lead-In, Sean Hannity: “A University of OK student blew himself up near a packed football stadium. Now was this a simple suicide or was it an attempted terrorist attack. Why isn’t it getting more media attention? We’re going to ask a congressman whose determined to get answers tonight.”

OCT 14 2005 9:31 ET
Colmes: “...but first University of Oklahoma [OK] student, Joel Hinrich[s] blew himself up just 100 yards away from the school’s packed football stadium on October first. Since then there have been a series of allegations about his motives and his crime.
Was he part of a larger terror plot, was it just an isolated incident?

Joining us now, OK Congressman who is demanding answers, Representative Tom Cole.
Thank you sir for being with us tonight.
Are we jumping to conclusions...”

Tom Cole: “Good to be with you.” [American flag on lapel]

Colmes: “...based on the fact that he had a Pakistani roommate and that he may have gone to buy some kind of explosion [verify if he said explosive]. Is there a little bit of paranoia or racism in jumping in to believe that this person might have other motives other than a lone suicide?”

Tom Cole: “Well I, I think its wise to be cautious.
You know we did have [Zacarias] Moussaoui in OK, the so called 20th hi-jacker, Nicholas Berg, the individual who was brutally murdered the past year, and, of course, had the largest incident of domestic terrorism with the OK city bombing, so I think there’s probably a heightened sensitivity...”

[Fox Facts: FBI is Conducting Probe into University of Oklahoma Bombing]

“...but, frankly I think the law enforcement officials here have done an excellent job and, uh, I got a great briefing by the special agent in charge; Hernandez and everything so far appears to indicate this was indeed an isolated incident, a very lonely and troubled young man who, uh had had a a rather disturbed adolescence and early childhood, and frankly resulted in a suicide, we don’t find any evidence of all, of a terrorist activity or any any plots.
[??] for the Islamic community”

[Fox Facts: 10/1: Student Died After Bomb Exploded at Football Stadium. Video footage of what appears to be a trooper? directing traffic past Yellow taped off area]

Colmes: I know you spoke with the F.B.I. He had a Pakistani roommate. He did suffer from depression as we found out. Also University of OK Instructor from Egypt was hand-cuffed at gunpoint and the roommate, the Pakistani roommate detained.

Again is this just being cautious and careful in a world of terrorism or are we too quick to make that connection because anyone connected with someone of foreign descent of certain countries and the possibility of terrorism.”

[Fox facts: Joel Hinrichs III was an Engineering Student]

Cole: “Well I think you ought to be careful. But I think actually the law enforcement people have been cautious and careful and there’s been no allegation of of inappropriate activity uh uh from um people that were detained. And frankly they deserve high marks. They were enormously cooperative. People here have been very helpful. The law enforcement I think responded quickly and professionally both locally and the federal officials as well.
And their on top of it. They’ve looked at it. Everyday that goes by, they’re more and more certain that this was indeed an isolated incident and uh, is being treated as such, so I frankly I think by and large people deserve high marks for the manner in which it’s being handled.”

[Fox facts: FBI: Found No Indication That Hinrichs had Links to Terrorists. Bomb Went Off About 100 Yards from the Football Stadium. Bomb Went Off During Second Quarter of Football Game. 85,000 Fans were Attending Oklahoma-Kansas State Game]

Hannity: “Hey Congressman, I want to talk specifically about conflicting reports that he [Hinrich] and his roommate [Fazal] Cheema, that they did attend this particular Mosque which was one block away from their house [apartment]. There was a local TV station and correspondent that said he [Hinrich] spent much of his time there, but that is being disputed by other people.
Do we know the answer to it, cause this is the one according to the Wall Street Journal said the Mosque that was attended by [Zacarias] Moussaoui that would be an an important pertinent fact in some peoples mind, and would it be in your mind, and what do you know about it?”

[Fox facts: Officials removed Explosive Materials from Hinrich’s Apt. FBI Questioned Hinrichs’ Pakistani-National Roommate]

Cole: “Well again I I could understand people being concerned and cautious but the reality is we don’t have any indication that he ever attended the Mosque, quite the opposite, there’s just, there’s no ‘Jahidist’ material uh in the apartment. The fact that he had a Pakistani roommate does indeed seem to be coincidental.
Just simply ah people looking for a way to cut their housing costs together. They weren’t close. They weren’t friends. Uh, we have no note that was left to indicate that, and there’s just simply no indication this was anything other than a suicide.”

“Again I could understand why people try and look at this an jump to conclusions quickly. But a...”

[Fox facts: Hinrichs’ Apt is Near Mosque Attended by Z. Moussaoui]

Hannity: “Well, Congressman, but he blew himself up a hundred, he blew himself up a hundred yards away from a football stadium packed with 85 thousand people, it is beyond rare the person that commits suicide with a bomb, uh,”

[Fox facts: Hinrichs Purchased Same Explosive Used by McVeigh and Richard Reid]

Cole: “Oh extrodinarily rare.”

Hannity: “Should it not raise suspicion and concern? I mean that seems logical to me?”

Cole: “Well I think concern, yes, and uh, this is an individual frankly that had a history of dealing with explosives back to the time he was a teenager, throughout his adolescence and I think that is worth noting and the F.B.I. actually made that point to me that it’s unfortunate, that’s an illegal activity that people don’t report it. They were a little bit amazed that this individual, troubled young man, had been handling explosives...”

Hannity: “Yeah”

Cole: “...for literally years and nobody had bothered to bring it to the attention of the authorities. Again no evidence of conspiracy. No evidence of, of any kind of involvement and frankly I’d point out normally when you have a terrorist incident, people are racing to claim credit for it as a terrorist incident.”

Colmes: “Congressman we...”

Cole: “Again we had a great cooperation from our Islamic community here. I don’t think there is any reason for concern.”

Colmes: “...we thank you very much for being here. Thank you for your time.”

Cole: “You bet.”
End 9:36 PM

origlonewolf: [If nobody posts a transcript before 11 PM, I’ll record and do entire interview shortly thereafter so there is no mis-quotes. Shawn and Tom Cole should be ashammed of themselves. Do your jobs! Enough of my ranting, on with the show.]

Congressman Tom Cole speaking on Fox News H&C show about OU Bomber [oubombing, normanbombing]
OCT 14 2005 9:31 ET

Alan C: ...but first University of Oklahoma [OK] student, Joel Hinrich[s] blew himself up just 100 yards away from the school’s packed football stadium on October first. Since then there have been a series of allegations about his motives and his crime.
Was he part of a larger terror plot, was it just an isolated incident?

Joining us now, OK Congressman who is demanding answers, Representative Tom Cole.
Thank you sir for being with us tonight.
Are we jumping to conclusions...

Tom Cole: Good to be with you.

Alan C: ...based on the fact that he had a Pakistani roommate and that he may have gone to buy some kind of explosion [verify if he said explosive]. Is there a little bit of paranoia or racism in jumping in to believe that this person might have other motives other than a lone suicide?

Tom Cole: Well I, I think its wise to be cautious.
You know we did have [Zacarias] Moussaoui in OK, the so called 20th hi-jacker, Nicholas Berg, the individual who was brutally murdered the past year, and, of course, had the largest incident of domestic terrorism with the OK city bombing, so I think there’s probably a heightened sensitivity...

[will post raminder later]

So the FBI told Tom Cole the attempt to buy fertilizer meant nothing? This "Representative" is as bad as my local...Barbara Boxer. Yech!

Cover up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have it on TiVo, will type up what he just said.

OU Bomber story on H&C

One of the major news organizations goes slilent for 2 weeks. Are they independant or working for the F.B.I.? Why sit on their thumbs? Cause they asked them to do so. No! There was much they could report on that was FACT and would not have hampered the case.

I predict they do not even cover the facts which some here have posted. Will they have on a local reporter from OK since they have not done their job investigating this with one of their own? Nope, just some congressman who has aspirations of re-election or higher office!

I have watched Fox News since day one and found they covered the story unbiased more than the likes of the ABC's which have an agenda.

Have they visited any other local Feed stores and find out more about the detonation device? Fox News do your job.

Not sure what access is available to the Stadium gates during non-game events. Perhaps someone on campus could take a look to see what cameras are installed at this moment. Considering how fast the bench was replaced, might not mean much now. If the structure is concrete, it takes more to attach the cable to the wall and route back to recording/monitor location.

Some cameras are also a Dummy and not even connected. Look for a wire to the wall from the camera or a short ANT on it. I would suggest taking a picture if possible of these cameras or areas where they would be mounted unless that volates some rule or law they have. See if it is stationary or moves side to side. How many pedestrian lines are there at Gate 6? How many ticket takers there? All of the statements from the FBI and Boren regarding the video cameras and just about every other statement include parsed words. They are speaking half truths.

What company installed these cameras? Have the local news cheecked with them to confirm any exist. They won't give details yet should be able to confirm that simple question.

To me the Amonium Nitrate is far more important. Something stinks here and the FBI must have a clothe pin on their noses.

Jayna Davis interview on KSFO lasted about an hour and she covered all that Liberty Rocks mentioned above.

Thank you Libery Rocks for posting the Cliff Notes. Appreciate that.

Jayna added some things. This is my interpretations...
1. Norman bomb squad confirmed the second package near Hinrich was explosives, yet the FBI who has full control over the investigation now says it was "inert" (dictionary = Not readily reactive with other elements; forming few or no chemical compounds.

2. Confirmed he tried to enter two gates. There was also a security guard who gave a taped interview to KWTV.
[I see new posts on security cameras. Having a cerification to install them (Local 332), depending upon how they are configured could easily miss him if entire area is not covered. Many facilities install a camera that PANs a specific field of view. Out of view, no video. Will look over and see what is being said on this.]

3. Said if he got into event possible 600 might have been killed.

4. He was clean shaven last weekend.

5. She wondered if he visted other feed stores after the 1st one turned it down and if sucessful, might have passed it on. I missed all of her answer, so this looks like something to search on.

6. Why is the national media not covering the story. Jayne figured they might have 'strapped budgets'. Locals were doing a good job initially covering this story and one from ABC in Dallas was investigating.

My local radio station KSFO AM (San Francisco) Barbara Simpson is having a guest on to speak about the OU Bomber on SUN 10/9/05 4 PM (Now).

This morning I emailed a complete outline on this story to a friend and was going to reformat it taking out my personal comments and repost here on why this is a "COVER UP". Very few witnesses/reporters have gone on the record about facts. Being a 'virgin Freeper' (my 1st post here), are there any URLs that are off limits. I'll post the beginning below and reformat the remaining 19 paragraphs after I get some sleep.

1. The FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force are the lead agencies on the case.
2. The bomber had inquired about buying "a significant amount of ammonium nitrate, the primary ingredient used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing".
3. He apparently attended the same mosque as Zacarias Moussaoui.
4. His roomates had islamic fundamentalist beliefs.
5. Investigators found a huge cache of weapons in his apartment....
6. He was "bright and lonely"... just the kind of kid terrorists like to recruit.
by Mark Tapscott