Posted on 09/10/2020 4:15:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee
In societies living under the Rule of Law, sworn Law Enforcement (LE) officers have always been considered fully justified in applying lethal force against violent mobs during arson riots, such as those which have been occurring with regularity in American cities during the terrible summer of 2020. This was the intent and meaning of police officials publicly “Reading the Riot Act,” announcing over a loudspeaker that a violent mob had been declared to be an unlawful assembly, that is to say, a riot. Rioters who lingered on the street after that final warning could be engaged by LE at any level up to and including the use of deadly force, with no further announcement.
This was, in prior more civilized times, a basic understanding of all citizens living under the Rule of Law. This is why a police officer’s standard-issue pump shotgun was traditionally referred to as a “riot gun” long before the development of modern less-than-lethal munitions. This is also why arson riots were uncommon and short-lived. Everyone understood the ground rules. There was no right to burn, loot or murder.
Thomas Sowell put it this way: “If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.”
ABR, my own acronym for the current working coalition of Antifa, BLM and the Revolutionary Communist Party of the U.S., are now routinely using Molotov cocktails (gasoline bombs) and other incendiary/explosive devices as offensive weapons in both an anti-personnel and anti-property (arson) role. As far as the BATFE is concerned, a Molotov cocktail is an illegal explosive device, and so are powerful high-altitude fireworks, when they are deployed at ground level as anti-personnel and anti-property explosive/incendiary grenades.
ABR deliberately uses the anonymity of their black-clad and face-masked mobs to conceal the identity of their individual bomb throwers, in exactly the same way that 19th Century Ku Klux Klan night riders carrying torches on arson missions concealed their identities with white robes and masks. There is no moral or ethical requirement for either police or ordinary citizens protecting their communities from violent mobs to identify and ferret out the individual bomb throwers, when the rest of the mob is intentionally surrounding them in order to shield them from that identification. Because of the deliberately created synergy of bomb throwers utilizing the anonymity of the mob, the entire ABR mob becomes a legitimate target for police arrest or armed community self-defense.
Furthermore, at this writing in September of 2020, there is no moral or ethical requirement for a law-abiding American citizen to wait for a lit Molotov cocktail or any other incendiary or explosive device to crash through the window of their home or business, while ABR mobs are rampaging through the streets conducting arson attacks. Once the fires begin, morally and ethically, the same Rules for the Use of Force (RUF) should apply that would attach to a lynch mob, or to Ku Klux Klan night riders on their way to burn homes or businesses. Both KKK night riders bearing torches in olden times, and violent mobs of ABR terrorists with Molotov cocktails and other incendiary devices today, can and should be engaged by armed citizens with any necessary level of force required to halt their terroristic depredations.
In numerous recent cases, law enforcement under Leftist political control has repeatedly abdicated its traditional and expected role in breaking up violent riots and preventing arson and other terror attacks. Week by week, the level of ABR violence has been steadily escalating, and it’s logical to assume that it will only worsen as the hotly-contested presidential election draws near.
So let me be very clear: if Democrat Party governors, mayors and DAs have hamstrung their police for political reasons, and won’t allow them to protect the lives and property of their local citizens using all required force, abandoning their primary mission in order to bow to the ABR mob, then it is time for their undefended citizens to apply the clear intent of the Second Amendment. There should be deep regret about the abandonment of the Rule of Law by the Democrat Party political ruling class, but there should be no moral quibbles or hesitation by American citizens concerning the legitimacy of armed community self defense, in the absence of expected law enforcement protection.
Therefore, it is my carefully considered opinion that black-clad and masked ABR mobs, rampaging and terrorizing innocent citizens under the cover of darkness in the style of the KKK of old, may morally and ethically be taken under preemptive fire by armed citizens at any level necessary to drive them out of their peaceful neighborhoods and away from their businesses, before the terrorists can reach their targets and throw their Molotov cocktails and other explosive and incendiary devices.
As an historical note, it should be understood that the National Rifle Association was founded after the last American Civil War by former Union Army officers, (and Republicans at that), in order to empower freed African-American former slaves to defend themselves with firearms against KKK night raids. In the 19th Century, the Democrat Party, then allied with the Klan, (as the Democrats of today are aligned with Antifa and BLM), had favored strict gun control, in the form of narrowly written laws restricting the legal ownership of firearms by free black citizens.
The more things change…
I’m not suggesting firing from your front porch standing under your porch light.
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I’m not suggesting that you were. My purpose was to merely try to add an additional thought or two.
Thanks, here’s the link for reference.
Matt Bracken On Armed Communities And Self Defense
https://banned.video/watch?id=5f5aadc1af4ce8069e737e57
I’m also not suggesting that after shooting an arsonist from distance back in the shadows, that the shooter should turn himself into LE (that was not there anyway).
Who shot the arsonist? Who knows? Who cares?
22LR subsonic from a 16+” barrel does not even need a suppressor during any kind of a “protest march.”
Try it at the range, outside, you will agree. Most of the noise from 22LR fired from a rifle is sonic crack. Going subsonic solves that.
22LR from a pistol means both a fairly significant muzzle blast plus sonic crack with standard velocity rounds. There is not much payoff shooting subsonic from pistols.
The real jackpot is 22LR subsonic from a long barrel. No suppressor required.
I’m also not suggesting that after shooting an arsonist from distance back in the shadows, that the shooter should turn himself into LE (that was not there anyway).
Who shot the arsonist? Who knows? Who cares?
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I think you have me confused with someone else. I said nothing about shooting from the shadow. Nothing about turning self in to LE. Nothing about who shot the arsonist.
And earlier you said something about shooting from the porch, under the porch light- which I also made no reference to.
I merely posted a thought on your thread after reading some of the other comments. And I basically started out telling you I agreed with what you wrote.
KKK then, ABR now. Both with face coverings to hide identity. Both protected by Dems. We live in perilous times.
While I do ‘back the blue,’ if they are not able to respond due to mob control or some arbitrary rules of engagement...I will respond. And God will sort the rest out later.
Is Andy Ngo the only person still reporting from the scene of these riots? What happened to the millionaire class so-called reporters from the propaganda media?
Andy Ngo doesn’t actually go to these riots anymore, it would be far too dangerous, he would be killed if he was identified. He’s an aggregator now, and the recipient of leaks from inside frustrated PDs etc.
Here are some of the other independent reporters. The MSM just doesn’t get near these riots, not even Fox.
My Twitter “riot reporter” all-stars:
Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo
Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
Brendan Gutenschwager
@BGOnTheScene
Drew Hernandez
@livesmattershow
ELIJAH RIOT
@ElijahSchaffer
You don’t need to belong to Twitter to check these Twitter feeds. Just save and go to these links once in a while, and scroll down their Twitter feeds for their newest posts.
Sometimes one of them will take a day or two off, as when traveling, but in general they have the very latest and best reportage, stuff the MSM, including Fox, doesn’t cover at all. Click on these every morning and you will know 100X more than 99% of Americans.
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer
https://twitter.com/livesmattershow
https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene
Full Video: Black “Queen” Won’t Let Flight Attendant Get Past Her Because WHITE PRIVILEGE Is OVER
[Radical lefty blacks are losing their minds. Don’t miss this. Video at link.]
Thanks. Andy Ngo is the only one I knew about due to people linking to his twitter feed from here on Freerepublic.
Never leave home without ......
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Have one of the early versions on a Benelli M1 ..... #4 buck makes a lot of crawlers versus walkers. Skip shot off a road or sidewalk turns the tide and makes surgeons money..... Also sets the example for the next generation.
“22LR subsonic from a 16+” barrel does not even need a suppressor”
I measured it as 106db. A suppressed 308 is 106db.
Outside with regular suburban/urban background noise, it will never be noticed.
My concept is that you don’t want to defend YOUR suburban house from a communist mob, intentions unknown, but arson not being ruled out.
If you do, you’ll wind up in the clink, see McCloskeys and the dude in Milwaukee.
You want to defend your neighbor’s home from the mob, from down the street behind the hedges. Turkey shot skipped off the pavement seems right, once anything is lit. (Fireworks, molotov, anything.)
That deal about the timid/political police not being around when the commies are rampaging works both ways.
I found at 200 feet, it isn’t even head in typical suburban areas.
head=heard
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