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How did Spain get its coronavirus response so wrong?
The Guardian UK ^ | 3/26/2020 | Giles Tremlett

Posted on 03/26/2020 1:38:56 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

It is one of the darkest and most dramatic moments in recent Spanish history. In the chilling table of daily dead from the coronavirus pandemic, Spain has taken top position from Italy - with 738 dying over 24 hours.

Spain is now the hotspot of the global pandemic, a ghoulish title that has been passed from country to country over four months – starting in Wuhan, China, and travelling via Iran and Italy. As it moves west, we do not know who will be next.

What went wrong? Spain had seen what happened in China and Iran. It also has Italy nearby, just 400 miles across the Mediterranean and an example of how the virus can spread rapidly and viciously inside Europe.

Yet Spaniards cannot blame that proximity. There are no land borders with Italy, while France, Switzerland, Austria and Slovenia – all countries that are doing much better – do have them.

This may, in fact, be one of the reasons for the country’s late response. Spain thought it was far enough away. “Spain will only have a handful of cases,” said Dr Fernando Simón, the head of medical emergencies in Madrid, on 9 February. Six weeks later he gives out daily figures of hundreds of deaths. The number of dead per capita is already three times that of Iran, and 40 times higher than China.

On 19 February, 2,500 Valencia soccer fans mixed with 40,000 Atalanta supporters for a Champions League game in Bergamo which Giorgio Gori, mayor of the Italian city, has described as “the bomb” which exploded the virus in Lombardy.

In Spain, Valencia players, fans and sports journalists were among the first to fall ill.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: spain; wuhanflu
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Spain doesn't have 2 trillion dollars to get its economy back on track. It's going to be a rough ride for a long time. We have a small group of condos maybe a 5 minute walk from our house, contemporary styled with a spectacular Mediterranean view that will never be blocked, listing for 375,000 Euros each. They were started in 2007 at 399,000 Euros. Then the recession hit and they sat unfinished for 12 years. They didn't even bother to remove the crane being used to build them. An investor bought and finished them in 2019. I think he sold most of the units but if he didn't it could be another 12 years before anyone can afford to buy them again. Sad.
1 posted on 03/26/2020 1:38:56 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

If we are relatively unscathed by this. Europe may need a “Marshall Plan” type rescue.

If we don’t do it, the Chinese will more than happy to.


2 posted on 03/26/2020 1:41:58 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I wouldn’t believe any thing about the number of deaths in China or Iran.


3 posted on 03/26/2020 1:45:22 PM PDT by riverrunner ( o the public,)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"Spain doesn't have 2 trillion dollars to get its economy back on track."

Nor in actuality does the United States. At least we have the Federal Reserve who can make a "good will" asset entry to level its balance sheet.

4 posted on 03/26/2020 1:45:31 PM PDT by buckalfa (Post no bills.)
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To: dfwgator

hell, that’s what started this EU pandemic in the first place - Italy is already well down the road to selling itself off to China


5 posted on 03/26/2020 1:45:44 PM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

(Thinking outside the box here)

What if doctors were able to shoot patients, when they look like they’re being drawn towards the light, shoot them in the head. Boom, cause of death is gunshot wound to the head instead of kung-flu.


6 posted on 03/26/2020 1:47:14 PM PDT by youngidiot (The left uses book publishing companies to launder large amounts of cash to other leftist.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

https://twitter.com/ReporteYa/status/1242822680748920835


7 posted on 03/26/2020 1:47:41 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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I think he sold most of the units but if he didn't it could be another 12 years before anyone can afford to buy them again.

And then yet another twelve years before an actual need for them arises - because the Spanish real estate market is suffering a long-term glut in the area of "tony" seaside vacation / weekend homes.

There are people with money - but no one clamoring to purchase such properties, because of oversupply.

There is no "cure" for oversupply - unless you torch 1/3 of the houses.

Regards,

8 posted on 03/26/2020 1:47:41 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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If we are relatively unscathed by this. Europe may need a “Marshall Plan” type rescue.

If we don’t do it, the Chinese will more than happy to.

We can't afford it. We can't afford this bailout much less bailouts of other countries.

9 posted on 03/26/2020 1:48:29 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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But hey at least they removed Franco from his tomb.


10 posted on 03/26/2020 1:48:32 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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“Spain doesn’t have 2 trillion dollars to get its economy back on track.”

Has Spain’s economy been on track anytime since 1700 or so?


11 posted on 03/26/2020 1:48:45 PM PDT by decal (I'm not rude, I don't suffer fools is all.)
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To: dfwgator

We are the world’s largest debtor nation. Translation: We are broke.


12 posted on 03/26/2020 1:53:31 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Spain has free universal heath care.


13 posted on 03/26/2020 1:54:46 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The Dems in conjunction with the MSM trashed the entire World economy to get at one guy.)
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The USA just overtook China in terms of total number infected and detected. 82,000 and still growing rapidly.


14 posted on 03/26/2020 1:55:17 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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There is no "cure" for oversupply - unless you torch 1/3 of the houses.

Sure there is.

Increase the demand through increased prosperity and increased consumers, or decrease the price.

All would work.

15 posted on 03/26/2020 1:57:14 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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And then yet another twelve years before an actual need for them arises - because the Spanish real estate market is suffering a long-term glut in the area of "tony" seaside vacation / weekend homes.

Perhaps in some places but not where I live. Those condos I spoke of sold out for a reason. Our real estate market was vibrant, international and the group buying the most was the French. Our next door neighbors are from Bordeaux and this is their vacation home. They were getting a great rental rate but I spoke to the property manager and every reservation on every property he manages has been cancelled. This town relies on tourism and I don't see it coming back for a long time, which could have a snowball effect and lead to just the kind of glut you mentioned as people who relied on rental money to pay for their units (my neighbors aren't one of that category) have to abandon them.

16 posted on 03/26/2020 1:58:28 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: ghost of nixon

The EU will be looked at in Chinese history as their Louisiana Purchase in the not too distant future.

“Free Tibet, with the purchase of another Tibet at an equal or lesser value”


17 posted on 03/26/2020 2:00:25 PM PDT by datura
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Take your bllsht and ram it you stinking liars about OUR TRUMP!


18 posted on 03/26/2020 2:03:51 PM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: NoLibZone
Spain has free universal heath care.

They have just told other EU members who are in the country but aren't residents that if they get sick and go to the hospital they are going to have to pay for it. You can imagine how the "we are family" crowd is reacting to that. Makes for a few laughs in these trying times :-)

19 posted on 03/26/2020 2:05:53 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: dfwgator

“If we don’t do it, the Chinese will more than happy to.”

OK, you convinced me. Let the european communists belong to china. Meanwhile, how bout we close our borders and start producing & innovating once again within the borders of our newly closed & self sufficient & fully armed society? How’s that sound?


20 posted on 03/26/2020 2:05:53 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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