Judge to rule in Twin Peaks recusal motion(Waco)

WacoTrib ^ | 11/28/2017 | TOMMY WITHERSPOON

[TexasGator]

Is that how the gangsterbots keep these threads alive?

[MortMan]

When you can not defeat the speaker’s points, attack him ad hominid.

Hypocrisy, much?

I appreciate the legal analysis you present, but your constant devolution into ad hominem attacks on other posters speaks ill of your acumen.

[Strac6]

Respectfully, I only attack in self-defense, when I’m attacked,

When I’m told I am a boot-licker” because I point out the legal and practiucal ridiculousness of a drug-dealing motorcycle gang scum’s defense attorney’s motion papers, it’s obvious any further reply based on law, fact or logic would fall on deaf ears.

Also, it’s not so much attacks as it is laughing at them.... and a bit of sadness for what has happened in their lives, (or the brain cells lost to drug/alcohol abuse), that would cause otherwise patriotic Americans to begin to give unquestioning support for murdering drug dealers.

To accept the lawyers’ claim that the Waco shooters are innocent is also to agree that O.J, Charles Manson, every terrorist at Guantanamo and most lifers in prison are innocent too. How could one possibly think they are guilty, since their lawyers say.....

I am a firm believer on Teddy Roosevelt’s epic wisdom: “Speak softly, but carry a big stick.” (verbal, physical, or Sig Sauer!)

:)

Have a good week.

[MortMan]

Self defense? From post number two (from you):

(Notice they usually post daytime information later in the evening, as they have had a drink, or two, or three, or.....)

When others attack you or your apparent attitude, you allege they are participants in illegal activity. You assert that they are addled or intoxicated, rather than admit that others may have legitimately differing opinions.

Finally, most of the posters opposing the ongoing process in Waco do not allege that none of the bikers are guilty of something, but rather that the state is guilty of serious and malicious overreach. My personal opinion is that the DA has reached for something far beyond his grasp, and may in the end have hurt justice by obscuring so much of the day's actual events under clouds of political grandstanding.

Being part of a system of justice is much harder than being part of the legal profession. I do not see the legal machinations in Waco as serving justice - on either side.

[BlueDragon]

Respectfully, I only attack in self-defense, when I’m attacked,

That's a lie.

I gave you plenty of chances. Each time, without fail you had resorted to ad hominem. After multiple applications of that -- you created for yourself an enemy.

When I’m told I am a boot-licker” because I point out the legal and practiucal ridiculousness of a drug-dealing motorcycle gang scum’s defense attorney’s motion papers

I'll ask you again -- is Matthew Clendennen a drug dealer? You just now described him as being that, and being "scum". Look in the mirror -- YOU are the scum! If not that, then at the least -- you are wrong, and wrong again.

His attorney's legal motions (that you claim to be pointing out the legal and practical "ridiculousness" of) have been sufficient in obtaining results.

• Judge Strother -- removed from the equation.
• Judge Johnson -- recused himself from presiding over trial of Clendennen.
• DA Reyna requested he be recused from prosecuting Clendennen.

You mad, bro? Why you mad tho?

[Tarasaramozart]

Have watched and followed from day one. This appears to be another FBI instigated setup to justify their existence and funding. Though some appear to be criminals the overwhelming majority appear to be innocent joes. Waco PD and DA were just stupid enough to be left holding the bag.

[Tarasaramozart]

Have watched and followed from day one. This appears to be another FBI instigated setup to justify their existence and funding. Though some appear to be criminals the overwhelming majority appear to be innocent joes. Waco PD and DA were just stupid enough to be left holding the bag.

[Strac6]

With all respect;

Two serious problems here. These posts often contain slanted misinformation and outright lies. They also assume the truth of D lawyers media misstatements and ridiculous pleadings.

We all well remember the claim of the temporary member of OJ’s dream team that “demanding that OJ give up 10 hair follicles for DNA testing would shred the Constitution!”

Secondly, way too many criticisms of the State’s actions are made with no knowledge of the law.

The classic example of this are the cries over the conspiracy indictments, how they involved so many people and how they all read the same.

By law and practice, all the indictments and/or informations must read the same and name everyone, since severally and jointly they were all part of the same criminal conspiracy.

Two other final points. Those complaining about their conspiracy charge should be glad they are not all charged with murder. Like the getaway car driver or other unarmed accomplice is guilty of murder when the robber with the gun kills the store clerk, a DA could have claimed other gang attendees knew the shooters were armed as matter of course and one or more were engaged in the crime of drug possession/transportation/possession with intent to sell, and someone was murdered in the course of that crime, and therefore charged them all with murder!

It would have been a very tough case in which to obtain a guilty verdict, but is was definitely chargeable.

Secondly, if there was any validity to their claims, they would be reinforcing them in court, not on the internet.

Have a good day

[Strac6]

I'm sorry I bothered you earlier. I forgot that I don't reply to those who are deranged fools.

I occasionally reply to those who are either deranged or fools, but not to those who are both, so no more cheeseburgers replies for you.

PS, instead of polluting FR with your wild posts in favor of drug dealing, murdering, child molesting motorcycle gang scum posts, that time would be better spend back with your therapist who can help you understand why you do these things.

Remember, the doctor really is your friend... and your drugs are NOT the answer..

Good luck and good by.

[trebb]

Don't let your hatred (fear) of bikers get in the way of a railroad/kangaroo court which is out of control - if they can railroad them by ignoring the intent of the law because they deem someone deserves it whether thy can get them legally or not, they can do it to you too.

Not a question about whether or not the bikers might be "drug-dealing motorcycle gang scum", but a question of those meting out "justice" follow the laws and the intents of the laws - Lady Justice has a blindfold.

You are so full of $#!+ that your breath must stink of it....do something useful and

Donate to FR

so we know you really believe in Constitutional/Conservative principles...

[trebb]

I guess - it seems that those who believe it’s OK to screw the law because they “know in their fearful hearts” that someone is guilty keep up their unconstitutional crap where they think the end justifies the means...

[MortMan]

Thank you for the civil reply.

You are correct - the stories are written very one-sided, and many of us debating are not lawyers.

I would think you may have better results providing information to others should you choose to be as civil to them as you have been to me. You started out on this thread by insulting the original poster and intimating he (or she) must have been drinking when they posted.

And you wonder why people react angrily.

Go figure.

[Strac6]

Sorry; the nature of my reply came from prior experience with him/her.

In the past, they have always gotten worse after Happy Hour.

[TexasGator]

“Standing up for the oppressive,”

I guess ‘oppressive’ is the right word. The motorcycle gangs are really oppressive!

[BlueDragon]

In the past, they have always gotten worse after Happy Hour.

It's one self-serving, chickenshit excuse after another with you, where you continue the blame-shift game.

You really think that's going to fool most anyone other than yourself, and Princess?

[BlueDragon]

I'm sorry I bothered you earlier. I forgot that I don't reply to those who are deranged fools.

You are a coward.

You cannot refute most of what I have to say in regards to the subject matter of this thread, so instead insult me.

PS, instead of polluting FR with your wild posts in favor of drug dealing, murdering, child molesting motorcycle gang scum posts,

More flame-baiting false accusation, I see -- while you say you "do not respond" to myself, but then add the juvenile "see your therapist" garbage. I've seen better insults posted on youtube threads.

Remember, the doctor really is your friend... and your drugs are NOT the answer..

Drugs? I have nothing to do with such things as long as we can set aside caffeine and nicotine not be included. Hands off the acetaminophen too. I like to have some nearby for a reason. Which reminds me. As mental exercise I should imagine I have the flu --- then, not as mental exercise but to help get ahead of treating the symptoms (which end up draining into chest cavity resulting in having a bad cough for a month or more) go buy a variety of "drugs" to treat those symptoms when they first appear so that I can pounce on 'em with both feet as soon as they arrive at the door...

You are a fool, and an old fool. Maybe you were something, once upon a time, back in the day, although I suspect if there was any record of past brilliance, incidences of that type of thing coming from yourself would be isolated, and rare at best. Even those days are obviously behind you.

[Strac6]

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[Strac6]

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[BlueDragon]

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What's that noise? The sound of your failure to have some 'social media' consolidation tool you avail yourself of block me out? My comments are still here on this thread. You may as well stick your fingers in your ears and say "naah, naah, naah, I can't hear you". It's amazing how childish a man of your [alleged] age can be.

Face the facts. You don't own the airwaves around here, and you cannot censor free speech posted on FreeRepublic.

The insult and intimidation game you like to depend on (to help reassure yourself, and make yourself feel all better about yourself?) doesn't work on FreeRepublic. It has backfired. And now, I'm living 'rent free' in your head.

Reyna's gotta' go.

Mortman is right in the first sentence (below) and I do strongly suspect close in the neighborhood in remainder that follows;

Finally, most of the posters opposing the ongoing process in Waco do not allege that none of the bikers are guilty of something, but rather that the state is guilty of serious and malicious overreach. My personal opinion is that the DA has reached for something far beyond his grasp, and may in the end have hurt justice by obscuring so much of the day's actual events under clouds of political grandstanding.

Damaging "justice", and obscuring actual events? Yeah, there's been far too much of that due to how Reyna interjected himself and took control far too early-on into the process.

It's beginning to look like some seriously bad actors just may "get away with" having committed serious crimes? In the very least, it appears many will not be forced to give up their living to sin, and remain free to potentially continue, but who knows? --maybe a few will repent and may already have?

It could have gone far differently and still ended up with his DA's Office obtaining convictions for something near to 10% of the overall number of those whom his Office obtained indictments.

If Reyna had allowed some time for the Waco PD to complete their own investigations, then some unknown but limited number of indictments for criminal conspiracy could have been obtained at leisure. There is no statute of limitations for accessory to murder.

Have faith, though. Trust in God. In the end NOBODY gets away with ANYTHING -- not unless perhaps that shifted onto the Only Begotten, who just so happens to also be The Judge. That's the kind of faith that can preclude vigilantism, and if had been possessed by more of those who were present at Twin Peaks and ended up being arrested for the acts of commission of relative few --- the entire affair, start to finish could have been avoided.