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Windows 10 Creators Update Fail (vanity)
Self | Dec. 9, 2017 | (self) Pearls Before Swine

Posted on 12/09/2017 8:56:58 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine

Looking for some helpful hints and discussion on Windows 10 update.

I have a G751 Asus ROG computer, which is pretty capable and modern (Intel quad core 4710HQ, 32 GB RAM, NVIDIA 970 GTX), only a couple of years old. I've been using Windows 10 Home Edition happily for the last 2+ years, accepting upgrades as they are pushed to me without problems.

Now comes the Creators Update (the 1703 series of Windows 10), and I have big problems.

First off, MS is pushing it on me, by clogging up my computer with the Windows 10 upgrade download. When I do the upgrade, which I have done is several ways, it is either wholly or partially unsuccessful. Details:

-Doing the upgrade as pushed, just doesn't work. It fails with the error 8007001x.

-Shutting off all startup services and oddball audio doesn't help.

- Using the media creation tool helps a little... the full Creators system downloads, checks itself, says its installing--and then crashes before the first reboot.

- Using this option with the "keep personal files and apps" option crashes at the point where the system should do its first stop and restart.

- Using the media creation tool with the "save personal data but not apps" actually does work... the system installs, and can be booted up. But, none of my drivers work. In particular the ethernet (wired) and ethernet wireless adapters don't work. The drivers are shown as present in Device Manager, but with the statement that they couldn't be loaded.

Fortunately, the rollback feature worked, and I'm back to the 1609 build. But the computer will be forever bothering me with pushing downloads of the upgrade assistant, I fear.

Has anyone else had similar experiences. This is very, very BETA. Previous upgrade experiences have been reasonably smooth.


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1 posted on 12/09/2017 8:56:58 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Ive had a similar issue with the update that came out on December 1st..it failed..and it wont redownload


2 posted on 12/09/2017 9:01:06 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’m unable to find error 8007001x specific to Windows 10 Creators update. Did you grab a screen snapshot of the error by any chance?


3 posted on 12/09/2017 9:02:19 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Well, if it won’t re-download, that will be a very, very happy occurrence. When I did the rollback, there was a fill-in box to let MS know why I was rolling back. I don’t know how they got it (since under Creators Update the internet was dead). Maybe it went into a file to be transmitted after the rollback.

If so, mild kudos to them for at least taking the hint that it doesn’t work on your computer. We’ll see if that’s true.

Before I wasted 3 or 4 hours backing up and trying various types of installs, MS had pushed the upgrade files to me every single time I turned the PC on. It was obnoxious.


4 posted on 12/09/2017 9:04:10 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
You can turn off Windows Update by doing the following:

Click Start > Control Panel > System and Security > Turn automatic updating on or off. In the Important updates menu, select Never check for updates. Deselect Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates. Deselect Allow all users to install updates on this computer and click OK.

5 posted on 12/09/2017 9:06:33 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Pearls Before Swine

My updates on five computers all went through without a hitch. Didn’t fix a Wacom mouse click issue but that’s been an existing irritant for quite a while.


6 posted on 12/09/2017 9:06:50 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Yeah these updates are annoying..seems like they come every week, sometimes they install, sometimes they fail. Not sure how to even redownload them and calling Microsoft is NO help trust me Ive tried


7 posted on 12/09/2017 9:07:00 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: usconservative
I’m unable to find error 8007001x specific to Windows 10 Creators update. Did you grab a screen snapshot of the error by any chance?

No, but I wrote it down, and looking at my scribbles it was 8007001f (not x). It also was flashed on the screen (sometimes, not always) very briefly. Sometimes I just got the something's wrong box, with links to a MSFT site which contained a sequence of suggestions, which I did try (minimizing startup services, for example). The log files are in a format I can't read (*.etl), so that's not helpful either.

8 posted on 12/09/2017 9:08:00 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The only problem I had was just an irritant. I can’t leave the computer while the update is installing because my default boot is into Linux. This late update took three restarts, three times for me to direct it back in Windows.


9 posted on 12/09/2017 9:09:39 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Reno89519

I’ve had no problems with any updates myself, until now, with the push for the Creators update from 1609 version to 1703 version. Windows 10 has worked fine for me, I’m not complaining about the past two years.

But, I have a pretty mainstream machine in terms of hardware and capability, and I’m surprised that this went so poorly. In the past it hasn’t.


10 posted on 12/09/2017 9:10:41 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Update 1703 apparently is not compatable with all computers that run Windows 10:

Check this:

"How to Block a Windows 10 Feature Update and Why You Might Need To"

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/block-windows-10-feature-update-why/

My comuter wouldn't install this update. The Show or Hide Updates tool they describe will block the unending failed attempts to download the update.
11 posted on 12/09/2017 9:13:55 PM PST by clearcarbon
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About turning updates on/off: I think that works for the pro version, but not the Home Edition.

Also, my Control Panel doesn’t have a System and Security icon. It has a System icon, and a Security icon.

I’ve read that one possibility for dealing with this is to mark your wireless connection as metered. But, I prefer to connect directly to my router with a cable.

In any event, if MSFT has logged my return to 1603, and just gives me updates relevant to that, I’ll be happy. Or, if they figure out what the problem is, I’d be happy to upgrade. They sort of threaten you by stating that if you don’t upgrade, your system will still work, but won’t have their latest security updates.


12 posted on 12/09/2017 9:15:55 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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I looked up that error message and it seems to be a common issue(What else is knew with Microsoft) some say to try installing the media creation tool sometimes the update will work, others say to try to update drivers(Such as audio drivers) whenever I see “Do a clean boot” I just say screw it because no way would I do a clean install unless the computer was having other issues


13 posted on 12/09/2017 9:16:32 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Pearls Before Swine
8007001f

That specific error indicates it's an audio device driver issue. Have you tried your motherboard manufacturer's website to see if they have an updated / newer audio driver than the one you're running?

If so, update the audio driver then try the Windows 10 Creator's update again.

If it fails again, your only other options are to do a clean install using the media creation tool or contact your motherboard's manufacturer to report the problem and see if they have a fix for the driver in the works.

14 posted on 12/09/2017 9:16:48 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: clearcarbon

I understand that it might not be compatible, although I’m surprised since my hardware isn’t that old, and also because the analysis of the setup program tells me that it is before it attempts installation.


15 posted on 12/09/2017 9:17:12 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I had a similar issue. Microsoft recommends a couple of things: first, download the Media Creation Tool - this is a link: Media Creation Tool. First, try to do a clean update from that tool. That will entail renaming the database that keeps your update history and starting clean. If that does not work, then use the Download capability of that app to download an installation ISO - if you put it on a USB flash drive it will become bootable. Do not boot from this drive, run Setup and install the 1703 version of the OS that resides there, selecting "keep existing data files". Warning: this is a 10 GB download (and I was doing it on a metered connection$$$!) This also picks up your licensing information from the existing installation. Do NOT slick the disk and start over (that's REALLY a last resort) unless you have backed up your data and have your license number handy.

Hope this helps.

16 posted on 12/09/2017 9:18:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Pearls Before Swine
How To Turn Off Auto-Updates in Windows 10 Home Edition

Ignore the crappy music in the video.

17 posted on 12/09/2017 9:19:05 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"I understand that it might not be compatible, although I’m surprised since my hardware isn’t that old, and also because the analysis of the setup program tells me that it is before it attempts installation."

Imagine my surprise this week when after blocking 1703 for weeks, 1709 successfully downloaded and installed.
18 posted on 12/09/2017 9:22:34 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Pearls Before Swine

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19 posted on 12/09/2017 9:22:58 PM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: usconservative

Three answers.

First, there are no new updates on the site since 2015.

Second, I have a second monitor, a large 32” WQHD Samsung, which has its own audio driver, which I disabled before installation.

Third, I did use the media creation tool, except the installation wasn’t completely clean because I picked the second of three options, “install but keep personal data”. Yes, I could try the full clean install. But, with what I did, why weren’t the drivers loadable? Why didn’t they come from the upgrade .cab file of drivers? I had pretty common hardware on the board—an Intel 7260 wireless modem, and an Intel gigabit ethernet controller.

As you probably know if you’ve used the creators program, you can do the upgrade via an online download or a separate disk created thru the program. I found MS’s instructions a bit confusing on whether the separate disk (or USB drive) was for a same-computer upgrade or for use on the same computer.

As you probably know, on an upgrade like this, you don’t use a specific product code—it’s buried somewhere in the UEFI/BIOS once you’ve had an approved installation.

In my case, the computer came with Windows 8.1, and the knowledge that 10 would be along “real soon”, which it was.


20 posted on 12/09/2017 9:23:37 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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