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To: knighthawk

Some of these now women are simply stunning.....some not so much

I know many here will get mad but I have a hard time understanding why nearly all who were raped kept going back over and over and over and over

They weren’t prisoners

There have to be some who once assaulted by him never returned to Palm Beach or the NYC townhouse or ranches in Mexico or Lolita Island

And how much was facilitated by Maxwell and the younger assistant

Beyond the obvious underage issue of most of the girls the rest is well....odd frankly

I know women who were raped..

They didn’t return for more

It’s a short leap from someone so tone deaf about the apppropriateness of such young girls might also have no issue forcing himself on said girls obviously

Not all his victims claim to be victims btw

That was mentioned early on and dropped


2 posted on 11/24/2019 11:33:16 PM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: wardaddy

You sound like Whoopi Goldberg with her “it wasn’t rape rape comment”.


3 posted on 11/25/2019 12:44:44 AM PST by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: wardaddy

“Some of these now women are simply stunning.....some not so much”

Trying not to blast you but for anyone to say this about rape victims is beyond comprehension.

Rape is not about what a victim looks like... ever heard of an 80 year old woman getting raped?? Yeah, it happens. Rape is about evil, illness, abuse and power.

And the people who raped young girls (and probably boys) on Epstein’s island weren’t concerned as much about looks as you seem to be. Ugh.


4 posted on 11/25/2019 12:49:26 AM PST by Reddy ( B.O. stinks)
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To: wardaddy

You have obviously not followed the story closely. He had a pimp, a Madame by the name of Ghislaine Maxwell. She groomed these girls. Many of them were teen runaways, others with problems of whatever nature. Grooming made the young women feel powerful, sophisticated. Virginia Roberts Giuffre has spoken in detail about how she was taught to fellate a man. It was a skill, and these girls went through their young lives feeling skilled, as if they had some prowess. And the clients were high rollers like Biden, Clinton and Andrew. Of course they were dazzled.

Further, he paid their bills. Many of them lived in small apartments that he’d rented for them. There were other ‘perqs’ like that. Young women who had felt so powerless were made to feel powerful. They were fed and pampered and made to feel as if they had something that no one else could give those powerful men.

That’s why they “kept going back over and over and over and over.”


9 posted on 11/25/2019 2:52:46 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal (I believe it! He's alive! Sweet Jesus!)
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To: wardaddy

His thing for underage girls is what makes this particular pimp notorious. And that his client base includes lots of famous people. But if what he did was so illegal, why isn’t B.J. Clinton in jail? Makes you wonder.


10 posted on 11/25/2019 3:27:11 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: wardaddy

“There have to be some who once assaulted by him never returned...”

Early on, there was talk that some of the girls never returned, i.e., never were seen again. The reason: On the flight back from the Island to the mainland ... oops! ... an unfortunate mishap occurred over the ocean.


13 posted on 11/25/2019 3:36:24 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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To: wardaddy

The impression I get is that Epstein recruited girls who were poor and from dysfunctional homes.

They got to live in luxury, in exchange for servicing him and his clients. I guess a girl could have left at any time — to return to her old life.


15 posted on 11/25/2019 3:47:21 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others.)
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To: wardaddy

“They didn’t return for more”

Pedophiles will often threaten to kill members of the victims family or them if they don’t co-operate. That would be enough to keep them returning don’t you think?

“There have to be some who once assaulted by him never returned to Palm Beach or the NYC townhouse or ranches in Mexico or Lolita Island”

Unless you were part of it and have some first hand information about all the victims your speculation lands in the same place as the the ‘impeachment’ witnesses, you don’t know jack about them.

“I have a hard time understanding”

I do too. I have a hard time understanding why a certain little group of people here jump on every pedophilia thread and try to provide shield for the evilness of this crime against children.


18 posted on 11/25/2019 3:58:39 AM PST by MagnoliaB ( You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you will find you get what you need.)
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To: wardaddy

The fact is these girls were paid, and were not raped. Is it disgusting, yes, is it criminal yes, is it rape maybe statutorily is some cases.


26 posted on 11/25/2019 4:43:57 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: wardaddy

I think this is why there is the term “statutory”..

They are too young to make an informed decision.


28 posted on 11/25/2019 4:47:56 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: wardaddy
Sitting here in disbelief.

I wont go there legally, but, they were children.

If the son of a bitch wanted a harem, why the eff didnt he have his “madam” recruit girls of legal age? Huh?

The man and his madam and ALL his clientele are sick! And anyone who thinks, and sticks up for them are the same.

36 posted on 11/25/2019 5:54:17 AM PST by crz
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To: wardaddy

Well that was a dumb post... on so many levels.


42 posted on 11/25/2019 6:23:11 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: wardaddy

Lady Colin Campbell, is that you?


45 posted on 11/25/2019 6:38:16 AM PST by bgill
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To: wardaddy
I have a hard time understanding why nearly all who were raped kept going back over and over and over and over

They were prostitutes, earning things in return for their services.

47 posted on 11/25/2019 6:55:30 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: wardaddy
I know many here will get mad but I have a hard time understanding why nearly all who were raped kept going back over and over and over and over

Psychological manipulaton, drugs, blackmail, personal and family circumstances, fear, debt, sense of hopelessness and giving up, self esteem, threats to self, family, and children, shame. Probly some more I can't think of off-hand.

Ask yourself how eastern European, Chinese, or Latin American women sold into slavery and sex work in the United States don't bolt at the first opportunity. You can find them at your local strip clubs.

You've been on this earth for a while. How come you don't know these human behavioral things and realities?

It doesn't take a genius to figure this stuff out. Just a little bit of observation, empathy, and understanding.

And some thinking.


55 posted on 11/25/2019 4:18:04 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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