Superior Swedish Sub Eludes Detection & Sinks American Aircraft Carrier USS Ronald Reagan

The Way One Vike Sees It ^ | 2/12/10 | Chuck Henry

[FredJake]

Ever since WWII, America has been a dominant force upon the high seas. We have become so advanced in our military technology that the Soviet Union eventually collapsed, in large part because Ronald Reagan would not back down against them. In honor of his accomplishments and great leadership, congress named the worlds largest aircraft carrier after him, the USS Ronald Reagan. Well it has been 22 years since Reagan left office, and while we have been able to hold our status as the worlds most powerful military the world has ever seen, those days could be coming to an end.

Thanks in large part to the anti military sentiment that prevails in Washington, from both sides of the isle, America is losing the war of technical advancement. What you will see in this video is a submarine from Sweden the, NemoSaltadSobrius, that cannot be detected, and even worse it has repeatedly sunk our best and most powerful naval ships in mock war games. Check out this report out of San Diego by Chuck Henry, who reports that America is attempting to figure out how to catch in before our enemies discover the secret of its elusiveness.

Follow this link to see the video about the Swedish sub that could be the end America's domination of the
high seas. The Swedish sub "NemoSaltadSobrius" beats us in ever war game we played against it.
Swedish Submarine the NemoSaltadSobrius

[FredJake]

So does this mean we are at the end of our super power reign?

Or is this an example of the US military using mock exercises that puts the rules in favor of the said enemy just to get information on specific strengths or weaknesses in order to address or improve them?

[Gay State Conservative]

If this is,in fact,a superior vessel we can rest assured that we'll be facing it soon enough because you just *know* that the Swedes will sell it to China,the USSR,Venezuela,North Korea...etc.

[pfflier]

Somehow, I think it would not be on the news if it was the threat they imply.

[rahbert]

What makes you think that? To date Sweden has not sold any defense goods to those actors.

[C19fan]

This story reminds me of Clancy’s Red Storm rising when a US SSN is tracking a major Soviet task force ready to attack when it is a small Norweigan diesel-electric that gets the first punch in and the glory; the US SSN bails the Scandanivians out.

[proxy_user]

Sweden is located quite close to Russia - they know what that country is like.

[mazda77]

Now that the Glowbull Warming computer model threat has been shown not to be true, they need a new OMG computer model to get everyone all wee wee’d up over some other bogus computer model.

[Realism]

Carriers have always been vulnerable. Now one anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM)with a range of 3K miles, which China currently has, and it’s over.

[OneVike]

So you think this is a bogus report put out just to get us scared to spend more money on the military?

[roving]

I was stationed on a destroyer. We played war games quite often and my ship was always hit in the daylight. At night however, we would disguise it as a merchant ship and well, payback is a b*tch.

[stormer]

Well, in that Sweden hasn’t been at war since 1814, I guess we should count ourselves lucky.

[WOBBLY BOB]

Sweden lifts ban on nuclear power

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/feb/05/sweden-nuclear-power

somebody better tell Barry Sotero.

[DesertRhino]

But theres always the final pickle of what ultimatly happens to a country that sinks a carrier or ours. Especially by surprise,,, (when we have an American for president of course)

Our ultimate last word is a b!tch,, ask Japan. They still haven’t got over it.

[wbill]

Somehow, I think it would not be on the news if it was the threat they imply.

Yep, looks like the Swedes are looking for advertising.

Or, it's entirely possible that it could be a double-cross on the double-cross, in that the sub was detected and the powers that be decided not to prosecute it.

[pfflier]

I'm sure the Swedes would like to sell their technology. I don't see how they mask the magnetic signature although they may be acoustically hard to detect. I'll defer to the swabbiees that know such things on this subject.

Disinformation is a strategy in the intelligence game too.

[ANGGAPO]

Not necessarily so.

[Diplomat]

I don't see how they mask the magnetic signature although they may be acoustically hard to detect.

Magnetic signature? 100% irrelevant, magnetism decays nears exponentially and could only be detected out to a few feet at best from the sub.

[Mr Inviso]

“Magnetic signature? 100% irrelevant, magnetism decays nears exponentially and could only be detected out to a few feet at best from the sub.”

Not correct, or we’ve wasted a LOT of money on those Magnetic Anomaly Detectors on our helicopters and P3s

[Hegewisch Dupa]

somehow, detection technology discussion carries all the more weight coming from someone called “Mr. Inviso.” ;)

[El Gato]

I'm sure the Swedes would like to sell their technology. I don't see how they mask the magnetic signature although they may be acoustically hard to detect

Magnetic signature isn't very detectable except when the sub is shallow. Swedish sub is small, compared to US or Russian subs, and thus has a smaller signature to begin with.

"Small" makes all non accoustic detection methods harder. Small and quiet can be very difficult. Fortunately small Russian SSKs are not all that quiet. Such small subs also like to play in the litoral area, which is generally noisier, again making detection more difficult.