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Obama goes to church to hear a Muslim speaker!
The Post & Email ^ | September 20, 2010 | Brigitte de Maubec

Posted on 09/20/2010 6:30:09 PM PDT by this is my country

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To: randog

I guar-an-tee...my pastor would not have let him speak in our Church. He might come there to listen but...no, no, he would not speak about Mohammed.


61 posted on 09/20/2010 7:19:11 PM PDT by bobaloobob
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To: randog

If I am not mistaken the Episcopal Churches are quite liberal. Here is a link to St John’s Episcopal Church.

They have forums and if you scroll down to I think it is May they will be doing a couple of them on Cuba.

The one Obama attended this Sunday continues next Sunday so I wonder if he will go then also or just went to see the guy who talked this Sunday.

http://www.stjohns-dc.org/article.php?id=41


62 posted on 09/20/2010 7:20:27 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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“The forty year theory.”

Ibn Khaldun is famous in the world of studying Middle Eastern history as the author of “The Introduction,” (Al Muqaddimah). In this work, he outlines a cyclical theory of history, which comprises four phases:

1) Raw rise to power from a clan or nomadic group
2) Refinement of the reins of power
3) Apogee
4) Decadence and decline

The clannishness or “Asabiyyah” of a group progresses through “level(s) of civilization…(and is) strongest in the nomadic phase. Once the rise and fall occurs, “another more compelling Asabiyyah may take its place” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah).

The volumes contained in the actual history that “The Introduction” precedes is not only long, but also varied and expansive. In a nutshell, he ties time in terms of specific generations to the space those generations occupy. For example, the idea of a social contract is explained, as is a description of the tension between the power of the rural versus the city. “Ibn Khaldun conceived both a central social conflict (”town” versus “desert”) as well as a theory (using the concept of a “generation”) of the necessary loss of power of city conquerors coming from the desert” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqaddimah).

The length of each of the four power phases listed above is approximately one generation, or 40 years. That being said, we are witnessing waves of varying strength in the global conflict between Islam and the Western World that has existed since the breakout of Islamic military conquest in 711. Significant events in Western-Islamic tension have continued unabated. While these dates are not exactly 40 years apart, they nonetheless suggest that the conflict has never ceased, but, has simply permeated ever more deeply into the ethos of the peoples involved—beyond military capabilities to the citizenry. To wit, as evidence, please consider these dates:
1450s – Vlad Dracula fights the Ottoman Turks
1492 – Moors leave Spain @ Granada
1529 –1st Siege of Vienna
1530 – Little War in Hungary
1565 – Siege of Malta
1571 – Battle of Lepanto
1590 – Treaty of Istanbul (generally with Persia, but including Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia)
1593-1606 – The Long War
(Note: the Hapsburg/Venetian/Russian forces capture a number of previously held countries in the 16 and 1700s)
1683 – 2nd failed siege of Vienna
1687 – Second Battle of Mohacs
1699 – Treaty of Karowitz
1716-1718 – Battle of Petrovaradin or Battle of Peterwardein
1730 – Rebellion of Patrona Halil and end of the ‘Tulip Period’
1739 – Treaty of Belgrade
1798 – Napoleonic expedition in Egypt
1807 (and following) Tanzimat period of modernization
1813 – Serbian Uprising
1821 – Greek War of Independence
1853 – Crimean Ward Charge of the Light Brigade
1867 –Formation of Austro-Hungarian Empire in the Ausgleich or Compromise of 1867,
1877 – Russo-Turkish War 1878 – Treaty of San Stefano
1913 – First Balkan War
1914 – World War I & collapse of the Ottoman Empire
1937– Rise of Nazism, creation of the Islamic Corps under the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem
1948 – War against Israel
1967 – Six Day War
1983 – Murders of US Marines in Beirut
2001 – 9/11

The Spice Routes founded the circumvention of the Middle Eastern trade routes as assuredly as the oil routes have led to the same area. The market for trade goods has been and will continue to be the locus of control. It isn’t that the Crusades of 1095-1261 ended; they merely crossed over religious bounds to market control and, now, to cultural clash.

Also see: “The Gunpowder Empires” http://www.nipissingu.ca/department/history/muhlberger/2805/gunpow.htm

Reference: http://www.museo-on.com/go/museoon/home/db/exhibitions/_page_id_977.xhtml


63 posted on 09/20/2010 7:20:43 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: this is my country
Apologies, I was wrong.
http://www.stjohns-dc.org/article.php?id=41
64 posted on 09/20/2010 7:20:58 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Interesting Times
Are you questioning his Christianinty?

I bet you didn't even celebrate iftar. He did.

Here's the place where he held it.

Curtains hiding the "redecorating" during ramadamn.

65 posted on 09/20/2010 7:22:45 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you, O you most proud, said the Lord God of hosts.)
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To: rep-always

dont send it to Beck, he’s not one to listen to when it comes to religion.


66 posted on 09/20/2010 7:27:15 PM PDT by eak3
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To: this is my country

http://www.stjohns-dc.org/article.php?id=41

September 19, 2010 Prospects for the Two-State Solution the Middle East, Part I. Speaker: Ziad Asali, M.D., Founder and President, American Task Force on Palestine


67 posted on 09/20/2010 7:28:14 PM PDT by callthemlikeyouseethem (Biden10/19/08: "I probably shouldn't have said all this because.. the press is here")
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To: this is my country

politics in church...hmmmmm


68 posted on 09/20/2010 7:30:42 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: this is my country

“Obama goes to church to hear a Muslim speaker!”

Did he go there to listen to himself?


69 posted on 09/20/2010 7:30:42 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Jean S; jimrob; LucyT
I don’t believe this is true. I cannot find any other source that reported this information.

How about the Free Republic?
70 posted on 09/20/2010 7:31:45 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: this is my country; Grizzled Bear; ScoopAmma; Irisshlass; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; ...
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71 posted on 09/20/2010 7:32:46 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: this is my country

We have forces of evil all around us.

This person will not stop in his agendas even after he gets the boot.

God help us!


72 posted on 09/20/2010 7:32:56 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: this is my country

and Sally Quinn told BOR he went to church because American’s are bigots.. I sent BOR and email with this missing little fact.


73 posted on 09/20/2010 7:34:10 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: this is my country

well, that should make for interesting talk on Rush, et al tomorrow.


74 posted on 09/20/2010 7:34:49 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: this is my country

75 posted on 09/20/2010 7:35:12 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: mnehring

If Obama goes to the same church next Sunday, we will know he’s going there to hear this pro-Palestinian speaker.


76 posted on 09/20/2010 7:35:51 PM PDT by Palladin (Remember Lepanto--Sink the Mosque!)
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To: this is my country
In his speech earlier in the week he misquoted the Declaration of Independence when he quickly skipped over God in his speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. In the closing remarks of his speech, Obama recited part of the Declaration of Independence, and left out "by their Creator." He recited it only as: "endowed with certain inalienable rights...."

And now we learn that the first time in months he attends a Christian church service was only because a Muslim was the guest speaker.

If Obama's staffers and the liberal media are so intent on denying Obama's Muslim faith, they sure are working overtime to ignore how Obama goes to extremes to cause continued controversy about it. In fact, Obama seems intent on continually flaunting his obvious devotion to Islam in the faces of Americans, as well as those who do his lying for him.

77 posted on 09/20/2010 7:39:18 PM PDT by CitizenM (If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.-Ronald Re)
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To: this is my country

Obama is a walking SNAFU.


78 posted on 09/20/2010 7:39:27 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: this is my country

figures...


79 posted on 09/20/2010 7:42:49 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Pride in the USA

Well, isn’t that special?


80 posted on 09/20/2010 7:42:57 PM PDT by lonevoice (Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music)
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