Posted on 03/20/2011 8:55:53 PM PDT by blockhead51
At this point popular opinion means nothing. We had the nation’s largest landslide ever just 4 months ago, and Obama is still doing whatever he darn well pleases with impunity. We are not talking about normal politics right now. There is some other factor that is holding the entire electoral process hostage. What the people think doesn’t matter at this point. What matters is what the people will or won’t DO to take the gun out of the hand of the hostage-taker.
Right now the courts say we can’t do anything through them. Right now our elected officials are flipping us the bird. Right now law enforcement is non-existent. Huge rallies are ignored by the media and law-makers.
Seems to me we have 2 lawful options: enact laws at the state level to grant normal people legal standing to do what our government refuses to do, or somehow make it clear to our legislators that if they keep ignoring us they will very seriously regret it.
Besides that, there’s civil disobedience but the pitfall is that anything that allows martial law as a response would be worse than nothing. Refusal to pay taxes might be the civil disobedience that would serve the purpose, but it would only work if the system was so flooded that the IRS couldn’t just haul off individuals to jail.
There won't be any uprising. Most of the people are kept in the dark about the regime occupying the WH. We pretty much have the equivalent of a state controlled media. I was just reading an AP article linked on Drudge about his trip to Brazil. There are over 1,500 comments -- almost all anti-obama. These "news" organizations know their readers and the American people are waking up and are on to him, yet they continue to provide cover. What is really going on in our country?
At the federal level, I see all three branches of government being non-responsive to the people. We once protested against "taxation without representation". Well, now we have representatives, but they seem to ignore us -- so how is our situation improved? They just represent themselves.
There is hope at the state level, but even there, no state has passed a law requiring that a presidential candidate prove his eligibility. I am amazed that this has not happened anywhere. I just don't know what to think.
The feds own the states because they can threaten to cut off funding.
The hope at the state level only comes from the people themselves, through ballot initiatives. Lawmakers at every level have betrayed us.
What really hurts us is the media being threatened by Soros. That makes even groups such as the Tea Party unwilling to stick their necks out for this issue, thinking it will negate their real influence on things like fiscal sanity. So in large part we’re not even talking about groups working to do what is necessary. It comes down to individual people who will be willing to collect petition signatures even while the media mocks them.
This poll suggests that if we could find people to go door to door we may find a lot of people willing to sign a petition. The difficulty is finding people who are already working hard to take care of their families who can and will invest the time to collect those signatures.
Nebraska had a sourpuss senator, Diana Schiemek, who was ousted by a ballot initiative creating term limits, who flipped off the people of Nebraska on her way out by passing a law to make it very, very difficult to get a ballot initiative passed.
We’ve all been trusting the system to work. It doesn’t. It is utterly broken. If anything is going to happen it will have to be done by people who know it is up to them, that they are the only ones who can save this country, and there is a short window of time where we can even do that. If we don’t have the willpower to do that, this country will die because of apathy, even after the biggest landslide in American history, preceded by unprecedented numbers of Americans calling and writing their lawmakers on multiple instances. Activism that in any way depends on lawmakers is wasted effort at this point, with a few exceptions (such as walker in WI, although we’ll see if one corrupt judge can overturn everything the people have worked so hard for there). Unless we are willing to channel that energy to productive methods such as state ballot initiatives, this nation will go down without a fight.
The media has been threatened, at least on the eligibility issue. That’s been documented by Doug Hagmann. If this country seems like it’s being run by the mafia, it’s because it documentably IS being run by Soros’ mafia.
And they don’t leave the bank they’re robbing just by somebody saying “pretty please”. Normal democratic means don’t work against the mafia.
Oh, I think there will be a fight.
That poll commissioned by WND found that 65% of the public favors the passage of a state eligibility bill to require documentation of eligibility. Support is high in every area of the country, among both men and women.
We are really and truly talking about a situation where the thing we need is manpower - people willing to go out and collect signatures.
We’ve been fighting. But to be effective it has to be a smart fight. Legislatures at both federal and state levels are useless. The courts are useless. And revolution would give Obama an excuse for martial law.
Actually, your chances of being selected for any given poll are 1 in 313,232.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
Here are some examples of the poll questions this ‘pollster’ asks:
Recent polls suggest a significant percentage of Americans question Obama’s own constitutional eligibility for office as a natural born citizen. Please tell me if you agree or disagree with the following statements on the matter: We don’t know enough about Obama’s birthplace, parentage and his residency in Indonesia to say for sure.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=159317
President Obama has still not produced a long-form birth certificate that proves he was born inside the United States. Knowing this, do you consider him to be a legitimate president?
Read more: Just 51% of Americans believe Obama eligible http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=122525#ixzz1HFKdwSLG
Thinking about his performance in office and his agenda for the country, and knowing about the ongoing questions about his birth certificate, are you more or less likely to believe in his legitimacy as president?
Read more: Just 51% of Americans believe Obama eligible http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=122525#ixzz1HFKn80yz
Are you aware of questions raised about Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility for the office of president?
What is your view of lingering questions about Obama’s eligibility to be president?
President Obama has refused to release his educational records, which could prove or disprove whether or not he was born in the United States as required by the Constitution. What is your opinion of the fact Obama has not released his educational records?
Read more: Only 9% believe Obama has documented eligibility http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=276865#ixzz1HFL3riIB
If y’all believe these are unbiased polls, then you are gullible enough to believe anything.
Well, most polls sample only adults. I was making an approximation of how many kids there are. As of 2009, we had 232 million adults age 18 or older. http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2011/tables/11s0007.pdf. The population grows about 1% a year, so it’s probably about 237m. in 2011.
So your chances are 1 in 237,000. My DEEPEST apologies for this error...
Is there a poll “out there” that presents the mirror image of these results?
Our home has been polled twice in one year. I thought it odd that in the first poll they asked my 21 yr. old if he would vote for John Edwards - or something along those lines. He replied, “no, the guy cheated on his wife”.
In the poll I answered they asked a lot of questions about income, age of residents, and HEALTH INSURANCE. I answered “private” to most questions. To the age question I answered, “between 18 and dead, and that’s all you need to know.” The guy laughed.
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