Posted on 11/20/2012 12:24:17 PM PST by kathsua
Those who are talking about secession should shift their focus to calling for a new fair presidential election that does not allow use of the type of touch screen computers involved in election irregularities in various locations. Americans should copy the citizens of other countries who call for new elections when their leaders engage in election fraud.
Alternatively, Congress could trade establishment of a special prosecutor for election fraud for a tax increase. The allegations of vote rigging are far more significant than the Watergate burglary that was investigated by a Special Prosecutor. President Barack Obama probably was not involved in the vote rigging activities, but a failure to investigate and prosecute those involved could be considered an impeachable offense. A vote rigging Prosecutor might have to investigate some of Obama's financial supporters, but probably wouldn't investigate Obama. Republican voters might be more likely to accept a tax increase tied to an investigation of state and local Democratic officials.
I don't know if Barack Obama would have won a fair election or not, but there are enough irregularities reported about the recent election to indicate he might have lost a fair election.
Irregularities include more than 100% turnout in some areas, allegations of illegal aliens being brought in to vote and voting machines that wouldn't allow votes for Mitt Romney. Ohio had a policy of allowing people to register and than vote without allowing officials to make sure they were not also register elsewhere.
The first rule of election rigging should be "don't be too obvious". In parts of Cleveland and other locations Obama received 99% of the vote which looks suspicious.
Election rigging has a long history in the United States, particularly in major cities where corrupt political machines didn't want to risk losing the offices that gave them power and money. For example, Chicago has a reputation for being a place in which the dead are allowed to briefly return to life to vote on election day.
It shouldn't be surprising if vote rigging occurred in an election in which huge sums of money were donated to the presidential campaigns by wealthy individuals on both sides. Some rich folks don't like to lose and will ignore laws if they think they can get away with it. Many believe that billionaire Nazi collaborator George Soros is behind the vote rigging.
Other wealthy interest groups are also potential suspects. For example, some carbon traders have violated European tax laws and even sold phony carbon credits. They might find spending a few million on vote rigging to be a good way to insure election of a president who supports the global warming scam.
Allegations of vote rigging might recede into the background for a time, but they could be resurrected if people believed Obama was abusing his office to benefit the wealthy interest groups that helped finance Obama's reelection. Efforts to restrict gun ownership could also trigger allegations that he stole the election for that reason.
You could force impeachment in the House but would stop in the Senate... Zero would never step down no matter what you had on him!!!
There will be no need for secession when the US Govt collapses under its debt. When the states have to fend for themselves because they have no choice, when the Fed Govt can’t afford basic services, including paying for a standing army, then it will be a moot point. Hopefully some states will be strong enough to survive on their own.
I believe that situation is inevitable, especially with our new penchant for socialism and hyper-debt.
Asking for a recount more of a waste of time than secession. It is more of a fantasy to think that the other side will “play nice” than it is to think that well-meaning people will come to the point that the only option is to dissolve the union.
A new Revolution committed to the principles of the first Revolution is what is really needed. Talk of secession and election do-overs is futile.
The GOP is history.. At least to conservatives. It’s time to organize a new party, perhaps promote the Tea Party as a serious competitor. Or start the ‘Patriot’ party, or.. Ideas?
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No states are going to secede.
It shouldn’t happen, and it won’t.
The petitions are making a statement, and that’s good.
That’s all.
We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America.
That’s what people fail to understand.
Col Allen West; “I don’t want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic.
Col West has opened the door.
It’s now up to We The People.
Silence in the face of evil is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.
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Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election. The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office. Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.
Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.
So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?
Massive voter fraud.
There are massive reports of criminal activity
(not mischief, not shenanigans, as many term the fraud- but CRIMINAL ACTIVITY) going on all over the U.S during the presidential election.
Reports of machines changing votes from Romney to Obama, eyewitness reports of Republican poll watchers who observed busloads of non-English speaking Somalians in Ohio being instructed to vote Obama- the list is endless.
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/
Romney lost because of this, not any other reason.
Nobody could have won against the fraud planned and perpetrated by the Obama Machine.
The evidence is overwhelming!
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/11/video-eyewitness-of-somali-muslim-voter-fraud-in-ohio-by-obama-camp.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-aVy_s76ZY
https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-stole-the-election/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LbOtYQceBxI-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hbf3iaEbAuY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ILJDudUpct0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_rMpQKqZhM
http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/
http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/obama-stole-the-election
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/election-fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts
http://appalachianforums.com/forums/Dickenson_County,_Virginia.pl/md/read/id/255145
http://beforeitsnews.com/election-2012/2012/11/stolen-election-evidence-is-mounting-everything-points-to-stolen-votes-2446928.html
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/adding-up-the-evidence-to-a-stolen-election/
http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/11/allen-west-mitt-romney-and-the-massive-voter-fraud-machine/
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures
http://foxnewsinsider.com/tag/voter-fraud/
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/11/01/voter-fraud-is-no-myth-its-more-common-than-you-think/
http://thewillcountynews.com/?p=415
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4279497/obama-stole-election/
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/
Go to http://www.facebookcensorship.com and see the documentation of their censorship and harassment.
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What you can do:
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Visit these sites:
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/
http://thecompetentconservative.com/elections-have-not-yet-been-certified-heres-what-you-can-do/
Most of ‘Obama Voter Fraud’ activity is moving to FaceBook.
‘Obama Voter Fraud Volunteers
http://www.facebook.com/#!/ObamaVoterFraudVolunteers
‘Obama Voter Fraud’ on FaceBook-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488176621204089&set=a.488176614537423.110863.488173144537770&type=1&theater";-
Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/
Another petition, The ‘We The People’ petition has 60,000 signatures and counting-
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p
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“Or start the ‘Patriot’ party, or.. Ideas?”
I was thinking something similar: “Patriots of America Party” I will not mind at all being called a “paps”!
A new election? From who? The FEC? Investigation into voter fraud? From who? The DOJ?
Our Founding Fathers tried to work within the system, too. They had about the same success that we’re having.
No, that is unconstitutional. If Obama and Biden were to be removed from office, or to resign, then the Speaker of the House becomes president, then the secretary of the state, etc.
No, that is unconstitutional. If Obama and Biden were to be removed from office, or to resign, then the Speaker of the House becomes president, then the secretary of the state, etc.
Correct. All those folks that were on OJs jury several years back are now senators, so if Hussein wants to, he can get away with murder.
Oh my mistake! He already has at Benghazi!
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Hussein wants to, he can get away with murder.
That is a true statement!
“Ask for New Election And Vote Fraud Investigation”
WHY?????
Attack the repubes!!!! They don’t think we KNOW!!!!
“Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud”:
“The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.
PolitiJim writes for Gulag Bound, November 13, 2012, that during the weekly True the Vote webcast, Catherine Engelbrecht related a meeting she had with Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC), asking what the GOP would do about voter integrity. The answer?
Nothing. They aren’t legally able to.”
NOT “LEGALLY ABLE TO!”
The repubes ARE our enemies-—fight them first-—then, go after the commies.
http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/11/why-gop-wont-challenge-vote-fraud.html
Change your affiliation to “Independent”.
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