Our murder rates are screaming the truth but the Democrat controlled media is smothering it

Coach is Right ^ | 2/13/13 | Derrick Hollenbeck

[bigheadfred]

And I agree with A P.

All I was asking Windflier is to link me to any articles you have read to support your “It’s just not true.” If you can’t or don’t want to that is fine.

Years back there were some articles on the web correlating declining IQ in moslem countries to their inbreeding. I can’t seem to find that same information now.

[Windflier]

Years back there were some articles on the web correlating declining IQ in moslem countries to their inbreeding.

I've read about widespread inbreeding among Muslims, and can agree that the practice is very probably causing a decline in average intelligence amongst them, but that cause/effect pattern doesn't exist in any significant presence among American blacks.

Again, the burden of proof isn't on me, because I'm not the one making the claim that blacks have lower average intelligence than other racial groups. I don't see any evidence of your assertion, though I readily admit that a large percentage of blacks have educational and cultural deficits.

[bigheadfred]

What interests me is what it is the gives that spark that drives the climb and sustaining, and indeed, the continuing rise, of civilization.

All around the world there is evidence of great innovations, great ideas, and engineering feats, whether ancient or modern, but very little in Africa.

Cultural and education “deficits” (especially in America) exist for what reason?

IMO, they are merely an excuse.

Not saying if I was living in a tropical paradise that my interest in “improving” things would be that great. But presented with information on how to improve things, I’m pretty sure I would use that information, with capacity.

[Windflier]

Yes I do believe that this largely undefined thing called intelligence is based upon neurology. Further, I do believe the black as a group "ended up with the short end of the stick."

I see. Your assertion simply boils down to your personal belief. That's fine. Unless the Marxists in Washington make a law against it, you're allowed to hold any belief you like.

[Windflier]

What interests me is what it is the gives that spark that drives the climb and sustaining, and indeed, the continuing rise, of civilization.

All around the world there is evidence of great innovations, great ideas, and engineering feats, whether ancient or modern, but very little in Africa.

I share that curiosity with you. I've also wondered what forces and historical events could have created a continent of handicapped people (not that they all are - not in the least).

I don't know nearly enough about the history of Africa to formulate a hypothesis, but it's my guess that there were indeed some sort of forces which overwhelmed those people's innate abilities to innovate, progress, and prosper, as the peoples of other continents did.

Maybe one day when I'm retired and have the time to indulge such curiosities, I'll find the answer.

[bigheadfred]

Yeah, when I retire too.

There are historical facts that do point to a continent of handicapped people. Mostly, from mid last millenium to now—the rise of islam.

I had the great fortune to spend a year in Egypt just after Sadat as assassinated. moslems are (some) of the most racially motivated people I have ever met.

One told me one day that he couldn’t understand how “his” people could have lost the knowledge that created the monuments of ancient Egypt. I avoided that fight.

That being said, I’m just a poor farmboy turned cabinetmaker. But I had educational opportunities to be something else. I was 75 credits into an engineering degree (hard rock mining) when I went to Egypt. After that experience I changed my mind.

And the quest is to understand. I am an info junkie. My question to you wasn’t because I was being antithetical. I am merely interested in any sites or siting of evidence to support or deny statements made by others, or yourself.

What also dismays me is the intentional destruction, passing off, rebuttal without clinical proof, or burying of any information that doesn’t fit the current political climate.

One thing to consider is the “Out Of Africa” meme. I really don’t care if “everyone” originated in Africa. But the ones that left not only changed the world. They rule it.