[jjotto]

Rumors are that Volkswagen, one of the first purchasers of the 100 thousand dollar gems, found about $140k worth of car and batteries! Usually such a product is a loss leader, although with free money from Uncle Sam, it’s not obvious where any profit would come from with Tesla.

Weren’t they supposed to $40-50k? Well, that’s the stripped models they’ll build later with 40-80 mile batteries! Current versions (for free PR test drives) are much more.

[jazusamo]

It's my understanding that the Md S sedan pictured up thread is the car they were talking about selling at around $50K but the last I read the stripped Md S is $60K. Plus like you said it's a shorter range car because of the batteries.

I believe the reason Musk is so ticked off about the NY Times article is that not only is he relying on government loans but investor money. That article hurt him with investors and the stock slide is proof of it. That's just my view.

I've seen others classify Musk as a con man.