Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Debt Nation: Consumer Debt Tops Record $3.04 Trillion, But Money Multiplier/Velocity Decline
Confounded Interest ^ | 10/13/2013 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 10/13/2013 12:33:20 PM PDT by whitedog57

According to The Federal Reserve G.19 Report for August, consumer debt topped $3 trillion! Of course, Federal government debt has topped $16 trillion, over 5 times the amount of consumer debt. Note that pickup in Federal debt growth compared to consumer debt growth after Q2 2008 (red box).

feddebtconsumer

Here is a chart of revolving consumer credit versus non-revolving credit. Non-revolving debt (e.g., auto loans) have effectively replaced revolving debt.

revnonrev

Business loans have finally grown past the prior peak in 2008.

frbusloasn

On the government side, current expenditures (purple line) continue to grow, but the rate of growth flattened out starting in 2011. But government transfer payments (Social Security, Medicare, etc.) keep growing. The interest payments on the Federal debt (green line) are a small fraction of government spending.

usgovt

So with a recovery in business lending, staggering government spending and transfer payments and consumer debt topping $3 trillion, one would think that the M1 Money Multiplier would have started rising. But alas, no. It continues its decline.

m1multi10132013

Likewise, the M2 Money Velocity (GDP/Money Supply) is declining like a paralyzed falcon.

m2veloc101313

Of course, labor force participation in the US is the second lowest in modern economies (only Mexico is lower). And has accelerated its declining starting in 2009.

lfpus

And real median household income has fallen dramatically since 2000.

household-income-monthly-median-growth-since-2000

The M1 Money Multiplier and M2 Money Velocity continue to fall despite staggering government spending (and debt). Not to mention a return of business borrowing and consumer loans.

paralyzedfalcon


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: ceiling; consumer; debt; obama
What a disaster! Government controlled economy.
1 posted on 10/13/2013 12:33:20 PM PDT by whitedog57
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: whitedog57
Everybody turtling up with their money. Banks are reluctant to lend and people are reluctant to spend. And meanwhile Obamacare is hanging like Robespierre's guillotine over the economy.

Even the Fed trying to juice the economy like Lance Armstrong isn't working if people spend less and less while Bernanke's cash infusion goes directly to more chips on the Wall Street craps table instead of into production.

2 posted on 10/13/2013 12:52:55 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: whitedog57

If government spending could insure economic growth, no government would ever have a recession.


3 posted on 10/13/2013 12:55:57 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KarlInOhio

Keep in mind that something like $45B of the monthly “QE3” purchases involve mortgage-backed securities, not government bonds. In effect, the Fed is probably buying a lot of mortgage-backed securities where the mortgages were written several years ago — meaning the money was already in circulation long before the Fed purchased the MBS instruments.


4 posted on 10/13/2013 2:07:06 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: KarlInOhio

Keep in mind that something like $45B of the monthly “QE3” purchases involve mortgage-backed securities, not government bonds. In effect, the Fed is probably buying a lot of mortgage-backed securities where the mortgages were written several years ago — meaning the money was already in circulation long before the Fed purchased the MBS instruments.


5 posted on 10/13/2013 2:07:13 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

Can anyone explain the 750b that dissolved in Sept of 2008?


6 posted on 10/13/2013 2:14:44 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: eyedigress

I’m not sure what exactly you mean by that. Can you provide additional information about this?


7 posted on 10/13/2013 2:17:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child
mortgage-backed securities where the mortgages were written several years ago — meaning the money was already in circulation long before the Fed purchased the MBS instruments.

But by buying those securities, they give the banks actual cash to lend out gamble with on Wall Street.

8 posted on 10/13/2013 2:17:55 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child
mortgage-backed securities where the mortgages were written several years ago — meaning the money was already in circulation long before the Fed purchased the MBS instruments.

But by buying those securities, they give the banks actual cash to lend out gamble with on Wall Street.

9 posted on 10/13/2013 2:18:02 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: BfloGuy

How exactly does a bank “gamble on Wall Street”?


10 posted on 10/13/2013 2:22:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

I want the reason for this.....

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/29/markets/markets_newyork/


11 posted on 10/13/2013 2:35:05 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child
How exactly does a bank “gamble on Wall Street”?

Are you that concrete-minded that you don't understand my point? Banks are now investing their reserves rather than lend them. They are gambling that the inflation-fueled run-up in stock prices will continue.

12 posted on 10/13/2013 2:45:29 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: whitedog57

The stock market will continue to ride fairly high, as long as U.S.-”based” manufacturing continues in foreign, communist countries.


13 posted on 10/13/2013 6:07:54 PM PDT by familyop
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson