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Back Door Gun Control Moves Forward
New Zeal ^ | 10-29-2013 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton

Posted on 10/29/2013 7:52:32 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather

There are numerous alarming reasons why the US government and the military have been buying up all the ammo. Here’s one of them. Obama and the EPA just shut down the last lead smelting plant in the US. They raised the EPA regulations by 10 fold and it would have cost the plant $100 million to comply. You can own all the guns you want, but if you can’t get ammo, you are out of luck.

Remember when Obama promised his minions that he was working on gun control behind the scenes? Welcome to it. Now, all domestic mined lead ore will have to be shipped overseas, refined and then shipped back to the US. Not only will ammo now be even harder to come by, the demand and the process of supply will cause the price to skyrocket even more. And ponder this… there is an excellent chance that Obama will rig the market to where all ammo has to be purchased from a government entity instituting de facto ammo registration. So much for the Second Amendment. There has not been a peep about this in the major news outlets and it is done. With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China. More redistribution of wealth; more economic and liberty crippling of the US on tap.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: ammo; back; banglist; control; door; epaoutofcontrol; gun; guncontrol; lead; leadsmelter; secondamendment
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1 posted on 10/29/2013 7:52:32 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: marktwain

I’ve been seeing TUL ammo and another brand (PRP?) I can’t remember at WalMart. Both seem to come from Eastern Europe. Anyone use them?


2 posted on 10/29/2013 8:02:25 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Although it cost me a good bit and countless daily automated searches online re: available calibers, prices, stocking, etc. this is just what I was afraid of.’

Ideologically I am diametrically opposed to this government and its efforts to manipulate ammunition availability. I am, however, not personally concerned because I did my homework and prepared.


3 posted on 10/29/2013 8:03:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

As good citizens,and to comply with regulations,looks like it is time to turn our lead into the government.


4 posted on 10/29/2013 8:09:31 AM PDT by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: Hang'emAll

One at a time, or in ‘bulk’?


5 posted on 10/29/2013 8:13:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: raybbr

I bought some, but haven’t fired it. I noticed that it has steel casing, and only brass is allowed at my local range.


6 posted on 10/29/2013 8:13:45 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Batterie$


7 posted on 10/29/2013 8:14:50 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Batteries?

That’s “energy”...

Don’t you know that’s bad?


8 posted on 10/29/2013 8:23:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: SpinnerWebb
I bought some, but haven’t fired it. I noticed that it has steel casing, and only brass is allowed at my local range.

My range allows steel casing. What is the deal with your range???? Relative to another poster, Tulammo is made in Russia and is good for practice at the range is not particularly high quality but feeds well and goes bang. You shot group will not be as good as with high end ammo. It is polymer coated steel casing. The other ammo mentioned was PMC, "Precision Made Cartridge" from South Korea. This is high quality ammo with brass casings. I have been shooting PMC for 15 years and have had no problems.

9 posted on 10/29/2013 8:26:21 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

+1 for the PMC ammo, their brass is very nice for reloading too.


10 posted on 10/29/2013 8:34:22 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: cpdiii
What is the deal with your range????

I'm not sure, unless they recycle/reload all the brass that is collected, and have no separation method.

I will definitely look at PMC. Thanks for the advice.
11 posted on 10/29/2013 8:35:16 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: raybbr

I have in my 45 auto. Good ammo.


12 posted on 10/29/2013 8:42:44 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: cpdiii

“What is the deal with your range???? “

Maybe you have to leave your casings.

And they don’t want any junky steel.

Easy to separate with magnet, though, but not valuable.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 8:44:36 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather
With the US no longer producing lead, all supplies will now have to come from China, Australia or Peru, with the overwhelming emphasis on China.

Get it from Canada. It's the world’s largest zinc and second largest nickel and lead producer.
14 posted on 10/29/2013 9:11:24 AM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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To: sheikdetailfeather; rellimpank

Did I beat him to it?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3084879/posts?page=25#25

To: rellimpank

Obama has bought up most of the ammo on the open market for homeland “security”.
The EPA regs has closed down the ONLY lead smelter in the US.
Cali has banned lead in ammo to protect condors.

No doubt the EPA will find something about arrows polluting and ban them.

You know where this is going.

25 posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:03:14 AM by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)


15 posted on 10/29/2013 9:11:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

***And they don’t want any junky steel.***

I’ve reloaded steel casings in .45, boxer primed. Just grease the case when resizing. It is ok for practice.


16 posted on 10/29/2013 9:14:35 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: raybbr

TulAmmo and others like it contain steel, which is generally prohibited at indoor ranges. They usually use a magnet to detect steel if you bring your own ammo. They won’t let you use it because it will tear up their range.


17 posted on 10/29/2013 9:23:47 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: sheikdetailfeather

What are they going to make car batteries out of now? I just cannot believe that they are going to stop making car batteries so where is that lead coming from hmmmmm?


18 posted on 10/29/2013 9:29:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: SpinnerWebb

“I’m not sure, unless they recycle/reload all the brass that is collected, and have no separation method.”

the separation method we use at my range is a big magnet on rollers.


19 posted on 10/29/2013 9:43:59 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

—wonder how long it will be before see a ban on lead imports?


20 posted on 10/29/2013 9:45:29 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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