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To: wagglebee

There is serious Tiger hatred on this board, and your comment about the Swedish model fits right in. She is actually a very solid person. She just finished her degree at Rollins last year and was very down to earth and humble among class mates while here. She’s a good person and has survived an awfully humiliating situation with class. Whatever happened there, she doesn’t deserve that kind of scorn. With Tiger, he deserves some, but the outright nastiness here is unwarranted for one of the premiere athletes of the last half century.

Speith is awesome, and by all accounts a true role model. I still want to see Tiger return to the highest levels and win more majors. He has been one of the most talented ever at his craft, works incredibly hard and overall has been one of the strongest mentally and physically at the game. I, for one, am not going to beat the guy down. This isn’t directed at you wagglebee, but It’s reminiscent around here of Twitter with it’s ramped up mob mentality over the last week.


20 posted on 04/14/2015 8:53:49 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper
There is serious Tiger hatred on this board,

I don't hate him, I just no longer have any respect for him.

and your comment about the Swedish model fits right in. She is actually a very solid person. She just finished her degree at Rollins last year and was very down to earth and humble among class mates while here. She’s a good person and has survived an awfully humiliating situation with class. Whatever happened there, she doesn’t deserve that kind of scorn.

My comment was about Tiger and not Elin. I agree that she has class and handled the humiliation in the best possible way. My point was that it's now pretty obvious that Tiger was with her BECAUSE of her looks, not her character.

I still want to see Tiger return to the highest levels and win more majors. He has been one of the most talented ever at his craft, works incredibly hard and overall has been one of the strongest mentally and physically at the game. I, for one, am not going to beat the guy down.

Looking back, it seems pretty clear to me that Tiger's father really kept him in line, his game and personal life have been up and down ever since his father passed away.

If people had known from the beginning that Tiger was in all likelihood a sex addict they probably wouldn't have tried to make him into a role model. However, once a person ACCEPTS the label of role model they need to realize that they are going to be held to a certain standard and Tiger wasn't prepared to do that.

25 posted on 04/14/2015 9:09:03 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ilgipper
There is serious Tiger hatred on this board

That is certainly not true. Most of us were ardent Tiger fans before Elin took the 9-iron to-the-Escalade. Elin became a significant part of that story right then and there.

You should have seen the pro-Tiger crowd back then. Since his dad was a special forces vet, you could not even say one negative comment about Tiger without your patriotism being attacked. I kid you not.

28 posted on 04/14/2015 9:14:46 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: ilgipper
What I saw and heard Tiger do on the telecast of this past Sunday's final round of The Master disturbs me.

I'm watching him hit a shot which goes astray. He says out loud, "God f*ck!" when he realizes it is an errant shot. Several minutes later, the announcer, Jim Nantz says something to the effect, "I understand there may have been something said a few minutes ago that was inappropriate and we apologize for that." Like it was the CBS broadcast of the tournament that was at fault. He didn't identify Tiger Woods but I knew right away what he was referring to. They probably got many calls from viewers complaining of the profanity and religious slur.

I've played golf for 50 years and am no prude when it comes to playing partners cussing on the course. But it was never recorded or on live television. For Tiger to say something like that on national television, in earshot of young kids maybe or for young kids to hear on the TV, is highly inappropriate and very unprofessional for a top golfer.

I can tolerate Tiger's sexual misadventures. That's his own business. But to bring this kind of base language onto the course when it is being broadcast live around the world, is telling of Tiger's true character. You don't hear other players using that language. For someone who's propped himself up to be a role model and trying to make a comeback, I find his errant mouth to be embarrassing and disgusting.

31 posted on 04/14/2015 9:54:41 AM PDT by HotHunt
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