Skip to comments.Cruz, Natural Born Citizen Or Not? - Frankly, I am not sure that I care anymore
Posted on 01/20/2016 10:15:17 AM PST by inpajamas
I was told today that Ted Cruz's conservatism was moot because he is not eligible to run for president. I have also been told by others that true conservatives cannot win a general election. If that is true, then there is no winning, for even if you prevail by sacrificing values and principles to enlarge your "tent", you have won nothing.
The truth is, regardless of Cruz's status, Cruz's conservatism is not moot anymore than the Founders ideas were moot. For if values and principles are moot, you can follow the law precisely and you have nothing. The Founders parted company with the law they were under to embrace freedom. If it takes another revolution, so be it. And if we have to start over, I don't care where the values and principles and morals come from if they are good. I will stick with invisible virtues wherever they be found. If they are not embraced by Americans in power, I will support a foreigner who has them. I believe we are that point in history. This view, I was told, was a rejection of the Constitution. My response was not my one, but one of the Founders:
"The question you propose, whether circumstances do not sometimes occur, which make it a duty in officers of high trust, to assume authorities beyond the law, is easy of solution in principle, but sometimes embarrassing in practice. A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self -preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means.. . . " - Thomas Jefferson to John B. Colvin, 20 Sept. 1810 Works 11:146
If he is we should elect him, if he isn’t we should elect him anyway just to piss off the libtards out there and rub their nose in Obama like a dog owner rubbing a dog’s nose in it’s pile of poop.
so what your saying, is that we don’t need no stinking laws
He is. Chester Alan Arthur settled this issue.
Rubio has a more tenuous claim if you ask me since neither of his parents were citizens at the time.
I’m fine with his eligibility, but I certainly think that some are not, and they intend to make themselves heard.
I don’t think that it benefits us as a country to leave qualification requirements nebulous.
I don’t find it helpful when I’m trying to select a candidate people saying oh if you pick that guy, I’m going to sue.
We need to get this nailed down ASAP, one way or the other.
You say you want a revolution, well you know...
Indeed they are. I’m almost at the “so what” stage myself. Not quite there, but getting close.
No,we’re tired of playing by the rules.we want to play by their rules. I hear Cruz has 14 social security numbers.
Cruz is eligible. DT playing the card to undercut him just like his silly increase ethanol junk yesterday. Even most all trumpees know this but think they might win over someone?
I don’t have to lie for my guy and I sure don’t sing his praises for his Alinsky tactics belittling all who do not kiss his butt.
Exactly my position. Once you let human garbage like Obama in, Anyone is eligible.
As long as you are willing to admit that you advocate subverting the constitution in order to seat a usurper, I’m good with it. Just don;t tell us that you are upholding the constitution.
That’s silly. I believe Cruz would be the best candidate and is the most conservative, both fiscally and morally. This issue isn’t going to go away. It would be hammered on in a general election. And fought in the courts if he won. So what happens then if he is found ineligible.....does vp elect become president....dem candidate....or does the king retain his crown? At some point we need a firm definition of NBC. I find it more troubling that the law could be interpreted as an anchor baby being eligible for president.
Was it a vaginal birth?
That's some pretty hot stuff there.
To save the Constitution we must destroy the Constitution.
Still, Cruz has a venue and a case with which to obtain an answer from the federal court system - if he wants to take advantage of the opportunity.
Anarchy! Apocalypse now! Yeah!
No. What I am saying is Nature's Law though invisible is supreme. The Constitution has been overthrown by false interpretations of judges and man-made laws and regulations of bureaucrats and politicians. We think we live under the Constitution but in truth we do not. I am saying that doing what is good and absolutely necessary is the true law regardless of what anyone else or even any state says it is.
There is no expediency justification when deliberately choosing a president.
That is a good line. Like it. But to be more precise, destroy what it has been misconstrued to be.
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