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No, Trump is not especially ideological . . . and that’s not such a bad thing
Canada Free Press ^ | 06/12/16 | Herman Cain

Posted on 06/12/2016 8:12:49 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

Relax.

If one theme is constant among conservative #NeverTrumpers, it’s that Donald Trump is not really a conservative. People cite his past support for things like single-payer health care and abortion rights, as well as his fondness for eminent domain – which he’s used to his advantage as a real estate developer.

People like me counter by citing his current policy proposals – cutting taxes, replacing ObamaCare with market-based health care mechanisms, unleashing domestic energy – as evidence that his current thinking is much more in line with conservatives than his thinking of the past.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: conservatives; ideology; trump

1 posted on 06/12/2016 8:12:49 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
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To: Sean_Anthony

agree with this 1000%


2 posted on 06/12/2016 8:15:35 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Trump is registered Republican, but Trump is American, First, and foremost and if you read any of his books, this is what you see...He loves America, he loves the ‘working class people’ because he is one of them...

GO.TRUMP.GO!!! ALL THE WAY TO THE OVAL OFFICE!!!


3 posted on 06/12/2016 8:18:03 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: Sean_Anthony

If Hillary is elected president, America will need a lot more body bags for terrorist victims.

Trump is going to win by a landslide now.


4 posted on 06/12/2016 8:19:08 AM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Trump is a pragmatist. That is what we need in government, not ideologues.

If a program is proposed by an ideologue, all ideologues of the same mindset will vote for it, even if not a single provision of the program is likely to achieve the program’s goals. And when the program does not work for its stated purpose, the ideologues keep expanding it and throwing more money at it to try to brute force it to work.

A pragmatist, OTOH, sees the program isn’t working and stops it. He’s smart enough to see that throwing good money after bad is a big waste.

For the most part, conservatism and pragmatism have a lot in common. So it makes sense for pragmatic Trump to run as a conservative.


5 posted on 06/12/2016 8:25:36 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Sean_Anthony
it’s that Donald Trump is not really a conservative.

That is a hugely bad thing. Just look at the years of betrayal by liberal republicans which is exactly why the base is PISSED! Betrayal after betrayal from Bush I on, which led to a one term president and a two term liberal because that liberal ended up with a very conservative congress in two years.

The only long term winners Republicans have are conservatives. The rest just send us down the drain a little slower. Even if Trump keeps his words on illegals and muslims when he has already backed down on so many other of his stump promises he still sinks us further into socialism.

The scary thing is that this pissed off base is expecting Trump to actually return America back from liberalism. It is not going to happen and once again the right is betrayed which takes longer to recover from. Trump will win and probably in a landslide but the people will not get what they want from him and that is a massive disaster.....unless they are distracted by war and patriotism because like Bush II he will deal with 24/7 propaganda against him and a betrayed base. This is a future massive loss for republicans.

6 posted on 06/12/2016 8:27:49 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Sean_Anthony
If one theme is constant among conservative #NeverTrumpers, it’s that Donald Trump is not really a conservative.

It's absolutely true that Trump is not a movement conservative ideologue nor is he an economic libertarian. On the either hand, the policies and views of Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, and Romney were even further away from economic libertarianism and various tenets of conservative ideology, and I don't remember establishment Republicans demanding ideological purity from any of these or refusing the endorse them.

Trump's lack of ideological purity just provides cover for the Romneys, Bushes, and Kristols to attack him for their real reason: the fact that Trump was the voter's choice rather than the Party's.

7 posted on 06/12/2016 8:33:23 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Sean_Anthony

Ideology don’t feed the bulldog, as Cruzers learned much to their dismay.

We need a pragmatic problem-solver deal-maker who can get things done.


8 posted on 06/12/2016 8:52:52 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Sean_Anthony

When is the Trump rally today.


9 posted on 06/12/2016 8:56:01 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: God luvs America

Me too. Much rather have pragmatic doer than an ideologue no matter what type.


10 posted on 06/12/2016 5:37:05 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: Lady Heron

Mr. Trump is running on a platform that’s more conservative than Reagan himself in 1980, and you’re still squealing?

The heck is wrong with you?


11 posted on 06/12/2016 8:25:28 PM PDT by Luircin (Stomp Hillary, build wall, stop Islam. Any of the above are good reasons to vote. Trump 2016)
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