Posted on 02/04/2017 7:55:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
Dear FReepublicans,
I thought I remembered some time back when I heard about a racket that some H1B heavy contracting firms were carrying out. They would mistreat their (typically India Indian) workers and they would not dare complain because if they did, they'd be fired on some bizarre pretext and back to India they would have to go. Does anyone have any sources about this they can point me to? I think I may be looking at a situation where this is happening. Now yes, I know they took our jerbs, etc. So many may not care. But I have this weird Christian way of caring. Plus, the Indians of good will -- the very ones who might want to buck a corrupt system -- might also want to be team players here. Would this be such a thing that could have a whistle blown about? (Qui tam etc.)
For whatever it’s worth
In practice the h1b visa program is much like indentured servitude and somewhat like slavery with a lot of abuses in many cases.
Kinda sorta figured that. Looking for something that might actually be able to raise some noise about it, especially before this new Trump administration.
Aw well. I’m one of the top IT guys on the planet, so I guess some American companies should start considering me. Every business I touch turns to gold. Because I’m an evil white man.
Like that Kentucky Colonel in the new ad?
Close ... H1B is replacing some of the best, highest paying middle class jobs in world with indentured servitude so that you can avoid having to pay real wages for the best, middle class workers.
Let me say this... I was the one who got kicked out under weird circumstances. They either fumbled some of the worst fumbles on earth, or else lied. And my boss, an Indian who had been very kind to me before a different organ of the company kicked me out, is acting like he is mongo intimidated.
I just want to blow a whistle TWEEEEEEEEEET!!! on the whole literally God-damned conspiracy. My boss didn’t deserve that; he was one in a million.
One Girl from India on student opt here in Silicon Valley is planning to marry guy with H1b Visa, so that she can stay here. Court marriage is next week.
So watch for quick marriage in Silicon Valley.
I haven’t read through this article, but you might find some leads here:
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-egregious-examples-of-H1B-visa-abuse
Please find the evidence that this abuse of H1B visa holders is widespread and get back to me. Have you any idea how much havoc a group of disgruntled IT professionals in a company could wrought? Before I retired we hired a number of Indian programmers - because we literally could not find Americans who wanted to work for a small non-IT consulting firm - we designed and implemented surveys and psychometric instruments. One was truly outstanding, two were marginal.
Subsequently we outsourced to Nepal and then had to hire a Nepalese (H1B visa and all) to effectively manage the contract programmers.
Start reading the replies here if you really care, rather than are being contrary.
Before you get too tore up about the H1B Indians being treated badly just remember that a lot of them, if not most, are muslims. This country has been remiss in failing to provide the training opportunities for IT jobs and shipping in a bunch of foreigners to fill the vacuum. And, by the way, no one is forcing these H1B workers to come here. I have nothing against Indians but I don’t like them taking jobs that an American should be doing. I particularly don’t approve of bringing muslims over here.
Fire them all!!! I don’t care the pretext but fire them all. Send every Indian in American back to India. Good riddance to them all and return those jobs to Americans.
...and I don’t care about abuse of H1B workers. I do care about abuse of US citizens fired so that cheap H1B could take their jobs.
For them to work in India it is very tough. 1000s of qualified people for each job. They come to US on H1B and are very grateful. I have not seen abuse but they tend to work very hard because the company has to sponsor them. If they lose their job they have to find another company to sponsor them (very hard) or head back to India.
I tried to hire an H1B from a competitor. We were going to sponsor him. He went to resign and they scared him to stay due to sponsorship issue. I don’t know what they could hold over him except there must be a gap in sponsorship that they could have turned him in.
I have run into no Muslim Indian H1-Bs.
Not all that long ago I finally graduated with a four degree. After receiving my degree I lacked the needed skills the for-profit college provided with absolutely no guidance. I started looking around to enhance my skills in Java, Spring and a few other languages. I started looking at bootcamp schools. They would put sites up and some would guarantee a job after you took their courses. What I found most interesting is that these developer bootcamps were mainly run by Indians. They would want you to come to their school and then be placed anywhere in the country on my dime. The program ran anywhere from 8 to twelve weeks and then you were tied to them for up to 36 months. If you quit anytime after you completed and before your 36 months, then you had to pay them 10K to 20K back. I did talk to to two bootcamps run by Americans. The first was based in Atlanta. You only made 1200 per month for the next 24 months and were placed into a job anywhere in the USA. 1200 is not enough to live on and eat in some of the medium sized cities. It could be considered poverty in some cities. No your room and board were not provided. Second, a local bootcamp popped up close to here. Each class was around 2500 and they had an apprenticeship program that they chose maybe 1 person out of the class to be in. To do this you had to pay 2500 and not sleep for an entire week. Some of the students went to bed well past 3AM and were back in class at 7AM just to get a spot. Most walked away 2500 USD lighter. The thing is that most of these bootcamps are set up for foreigners. THis can be seen by the students they post on their websites. I remarked to one bootcamp that claimed it was the ivy league of bootcamps, where were the picture of the white guys? They said they don’t take them because they make more money off of the foreign students. The interviewer was shocked I asked such a question until I asked him to pull up the website. He was silent after that. Lo and behold I was not offered a place at their bootcamp. The devcamps are where the for-profits are making money right now. Come up with a curriculum then promise students the world and then ignore them after the class is done. By the time the student has paid upfront and the check has cleared the bank, the school can say well its the student’s fault for any number of reasons as to why they have not got a job.
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