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Ken Ham — Guardian of True Science
The Sensuous Curmudgeon ^ | February 11, 2017 | The Curmudgeon

Posted on 02/12/2017 12:20:53 PM PST by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar
...it flatly contradicts their claim that one can’t be a good Christian and also accept evolution.

So it's impossible to have 13,000 clergy who aren't good Christians?

41 posted on 02/12/2017 8:34:02 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: EveningStar; jbb247; monkeywrench; PROCON; Bulldaddy; Mrs.Z; Aragon; RobinOfKingston; Mom MD; ...

[[[[pro-evolution statement signed by over 13,000 Christian clergymen.]]

Pinging the end times ping list

That’s over 13,000 clergymen that call God a liar
(left out Christian because how can you love Jesus and not love his word ? They aren’t Christian clergymen , they are hirelings that call God a liar)

He has magnified his word above his name. These hirelings don’t believe , they don’t belong behind a pulpit.

(Psalms 138:2) I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

(Psalms 121:2) My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth.

God reveals himself through his creation and these people deny him as creator

(Psalms 19:1) To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

(Psalms 19:2) Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

(Psalms 19:3) There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

(Psalms 19:4) Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

(Psalms 19:5) Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

(Psalms 19:6) His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

They are without excuse

(Romans 1:18) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

(Romans 1:19) Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

(Romans 1:20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

What they are is fools that believe a fairly that things randomly happen , they don’t belong behind a pulpit and they aren’t Christians . They call God a liar

(Romans 1:22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,


42 posted on 02/12/2017 8:34:52 PM PST by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: daniel1212

Back up a couple of posts in the thread.


43 posted on 02/12/2017 8:48:34 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
Intelligent Design does not require God.

Begging the question. As St. Paul wrote, "In Him we live and move and have our being."

Or, to paraphrase the old joke, "NO! Get your own dirt."

Humans can engineer via Intelligent Design.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Like Windows ME?

44 posted on 02/12/2017 9:39:46 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Back up a couple of posts in this thread.


45 posted on 02/12/2017 10:05:38 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: EveningStar
We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth,

I know; for a scientific FACT; that no Evolutionist has clue One about where Life; itself; began.

They can 'trace back' to Primordial Goo; but no further (or farther; if you so prefer).

They cannot say when Plant life and Animal split apart; one to breath in Carbon Dioxide and exhale Oxygen and the other just the reverse.

They cannot say how symbiotic relationships come about where One type of plant and One type of animal rely on each other ONLY for existence.

46 posted on 02/13/2017 3:16:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SubMareener
Evolution has a basic problem. It has no starting point.

I shudda read ahead; again...

47 posted on 02/13/2017 3:18:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator
That is not evolution’s problem.

True. It's just one of them.

48 posted on 02/13/2017 3:19:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator
I find it amazing that Evolutionists might BELIEVE in the Theory; but none actually practice it.

Have they not all got MEDICAL INSURANCE?

Are they not trying to AVOID what Evolution has in store for THEM and their families?

49 posted on 02/13/2017 3:21:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Poison Pill
The Judeo-Christian diety has no starting point

"In the beginning GOD...

50 posted on 02/13/2017 3:22:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: unlearner
I miss the good ol’ days of heated debate.

AMEN!!!


America now has Trump;
Rome now has Francis;
Our Mormon FRiends have become practically invisible since Mitt fizzled;
So just who is left to play with?

51 posted on 02/13/2017 3:24:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator
Humans can engineer via Intelligent Design.

Does this make God irrelevant in the course of human history?

No.

Don't you realize that it is Human Intelligent Designers; all the way down?

52 posted on 02/13/2017 3:27:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: semimojo
The Ein Sof sounds an awful lot like the physicists' big bang.

Somewhere after the BB; Life appears.

No one KNOWS how; while some BELIEVE how.

53 posted on 02/13/2017 3:29:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SubMareener; daniel1212
OK Your the expert. I just try to learn.

Let me suggest that we ALL are blind men; grasping a different part of the beast.

54 posted on 02/13/2017 3:31:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
So just who is left to play with?

And some even hide amongst the caucus because they're afraid to play!

55 posted on 02/13/2017 4:22:37 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: SubMareener

Hear here!


56 posted on 02/13/2017 8:20:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: JimSEA

And hear here!


57 posted on 02/13/2017 8:22:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Boogieman

Wow, this threaded started with such promise! ... I’ll read further ...


58 posted on 02/13/2017 8:23:53 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Elsie
I don't think you're really following our conversation unless you believe god came into existence simultaneously with the creation of the world.
59 posted on 02/13/2017 8:47:54 AM PST by Poison Pill
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To: EveningStar

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by the Presbyterian Church (USA). The 2016 General Assembly voted overwhelmingly in favor on 22 June 2016.

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by The United Methodist Church worldwide!

To read a piece entitled "The Rightful Place of Science In Church" by Bishop Sally Dyck, Minnesota Annual Conference, United Methodist Church, click here.

Similarly, click here to read a piece entitled "The Clergy Letter Project" by Bishop Ernest S. Lyght, West Virginia Annual Conference, United Methodist Church.

The Clergy Letter Project has been officially endorsed by the Presbytery of the Cascades, a governing body that includes 101 Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) congregations

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60 posted on 02/13/2017 9:06:47 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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