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Sound Pulses Exceed Speed of Light
Live Science ^ | January 12, 2007 | Charles Q. Choi

Posted on 09/02/2017 12:06:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A group of high school and college teachers and students has transmitted sound pulses faster than light travels—at least according to one understanding of the speed of light.

The results conform to Einstein's theory of relativity, so don't expect this research to lead to sound-propelled spaceships that fly faster than light. Still, the work could help spur research that boosts the speed of electrical and other signals higher than before.

The standard metric for the speed of light is that of light traveling in vacuum. This constant, known as c, is roughly 186,000 miles per second, or roughly one million times the speed of sound in air. According to Einstein's work, matter and signals cannot travel faster than c.

PVC science

However, physicist William Robertson at Middle Tennessee State University in Murfreesboro, along with a high school teacher, two college students and two high school students, managed to, depending on how you look at it, transmit sound pulses faster than c using little more than a plastic plumbing pipe and a computer's sound card.

"This experiment is truly basement science," Robertson told LiveScience.

The key to understanding their results, reported online Jan. 2 in the journal Applied Physics Letters, is envisioning every pulse of sound or light as a group of intermingled waves. This pulse rises and falls with energy over space, with a peak of strength in the middle.

Messing with Light Speed

In an unrelated previous experiment, Robert Boyd at the University of Rochester used similar principles to make pulses of light travel backward and faster than c.

Robertson and his colleagues transmitted sound pulses from the sound card through a loop made from PVC plumbing pipe and connectors from a hardware store. This loop split up and then recombined the tiny waves making up each pulse.

This led to a curious result. When looking at a pulse that entered and then exited the pipe, before the peak of the entering pulse even got into the pipe, the peak of the exiting pulse had already left the pipe.

If the velocities of each of the waves making up a sound pulse in this setup are taken together, the "group velocity" of the pulse exceeded c.

"I believe that this is the first experimental demonstration of sound going faster than light," Robertson said. Past research has proven it possible to transmit electrical and even light pulses with group velocities exceeding c.

Common thing?

Robertson explained this faster-than-light acoustic effect is likely commonplace but imperceptible.

"The loop filter that we used splits and then recombines sound along two unequal length paths," he said. "Such 'split-path' interference occurs frequently in the everyday world."

For example: "When a sound source is located near a hard wall, some sound reaches the listener directly from the source whereas some sound travels the longer path that bounces the sound off the wall. The sounds recombine at the listener," Robertson said. However, the weakness of the signals and the fact that any resultant differences in timing are very slight "mean that we would never be able to hear this effect."

None of the individual waves making up the sound pulses traveled faster than c. In other words, Einstein's theory of relativity was preserved. This means one could not, for instance, shout a message faster than light.

Still, this research might have engineering applications. Robertson explained that although it is not possible to send information faster than light, it seems these techniques could make it possible to route slower-than-light signals in electronic circuits faster than before.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
KEYWORDS: 2007; einstein; physics; sound; tenyearsago
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1 posted on 09/02/2017 12:06:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The epitome of this effect is the propagation of a plane wave, at or near the speed of light, at a slightly oblique angle to a surface.

The point of detection of this wave will propagate at a speed faster than the speed of light, and in the limit will be observed simultaneously along an arbitrary length.

This is a set piece in the elementary exposition of relativity theory, so don’t get excited!


2 posted on 09/02/2017 12:14:49 AM PDT by dr_lew (I)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well now, this is interesting!


3 posted on 09/02/2017 12:26:41 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So that’s why the engine room in JJ’s Enterprise contains so many pipes.


4 posted on 09/02/2017 12:32:07 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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>> Robert Boyd at the University of Rochester used similar principles to make pulses of light travel backward and faster than c.

I’m still stuck on trains, stations, and clocks fearing my observations nullify what I’ve observed. Not sure I can deal with The Completion Backward Principle.


5 posted on 09/02/2017 12:33:53 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only thing faster than c is the amount of time it takes for the MSM to blame Trump for something.


6 posted on 09/02/2017 1:02:51 AM PDT by Bobalu (Don't give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be freeloaders.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like most news stories about science, it’s absolute gibberish.


7 posted on 09/02/2017 1:44:05 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The study used the heads of the teachers and students as the vacuum to test this theory.


8 posted on 09/02/2017 2:15:34 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: Bobalu

The speed of light is Trump’s fault because it limits how fast one can move.


9 posted on 09/02/2017 3:17:34 AM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

186,282.4 miles/sec — Any faster, then you DIE!


10 posted on 09/02/2017 3:23:05 AM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: dr_lew

Uh....what?


11 posted on 09/02/2017 3:35:05 AM PDT by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't know why you can't use sounds to transmit a signal? Aren't ultra low frequencies pretty much the same?
Brain damage causes me not to think clearly about these things anymore.

Ed

12 posted on 09/02/2017 3:41:09 AM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess NASA was still too busy changing Muslim terrorists baby diapers to assist in any of the experiments. OR they could have been seeing how fast odor travels in air compared to a vacuum while changing these diapers. Important stuff (shiite sheeet)


13 posted on 09/02/2017 4:07:59 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: dr_lew
The epitome of this effect is the propagation of a plane wave, at or near the speed of light, at a slightly oblique angle to a surface.

Exactly and as those two surfaces are bought together compressing the plane wave, the speed of the sound is heightened far exceeding the speed of sound and the Road Runner but never the Waskally Wabbit.

14 posted on 09/02/2017 4:11:02 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: dr_lew

So what is this bit about making light pulses travel backward?


15 posted on 09/02/2017 4:32:48 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Like most news stories about science, it’s absolute gibberish.

So is Japanese. Unless you understand the language.

16 posted on 09/02/2017 4:34:29 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

btt


17 posted on 09/02/2017 4:38:29 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY (The media is corrupt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What garbage.


18 posted on 09/02/2017 5:06:57 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: BigEdLB
186,282.4 miles/sec — Any faster, then you DIE!

Not true! They travel light years in hours on Star Trek all the time, sheesh!

19 posted on 09/02/2017 5:18:51 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, they didn’t.


20 posted on 09/02/2017 5:22:15 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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