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Revisiting the 21 Foot Rule
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 10/27/2017 | J Hines

Posted on 10/27/2017 11:06:45 AM PDT by w1n1

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To: MileHi

Hoe yer good

Or hope, I’m over due for a new keyboard.


41 posted on 10/27/2017 1:23:25 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: 21twelve

I’m familiar with that range. I’ll check their ASI club out.


42 posted on 10/27/2017 1:31:35 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: RedStateRocker
An agent of the state, with lethal force that I as a citizen am not allowed to have.

The problem is with the laws that don't allow civilians to do what is necessary.

LEO's and civilians need to be held to the same standards.

No excuses just because they are wearing a uniform.

Any cop who shoots someone without justification ought to be jailed same as anyone else and forfeit all pension and benefits and anything else that came with the job, including any opportunity to serve in that field again.

But people who defend LEO's who are unjustly framed as not jackboot lickers.

43 posted on 10/27/2017 1:59:51 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

Really?

There were, and are, PLENTY here, and on other conservative sites who are quite OK with shooting kids.

just type ‘Tamir Rice’ into the search box here.

Or ‘Andy Lopez’.


44 posted on 10/27/2017 2:11:33 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: LouAvul

Probably the BEST scene in the whole series...and I loved the series.


45 posted on 10/27/2017 2:17:21 PM PDT by moovova
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To: RedStateRocker
You should move to Florida where we have the right to stand our ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, to defend oneself or others or to prevent or stop a forcible felony. I can carry a far more deadly weapon than what patrol officers carry. The difference is that a LEO can stop and detain anyone that he suspects has or is about to commit a crime. That would include misdomeaners.

In Florida assault or battery on a person 65 yoa or older is a forcible felony. That means almost any overt threat to do me harm with the apparent ability to do so can be met with deadly force. That would include your dog.

46 posted on 10/27/2017 2:20:33 PM PDT by bruoz
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To: LouAvul

I really liked Justified. Great show. Not sure of Timothy Olyphant’s politics, and I do not care to know.


47 posted on 10/27/2017 2:27:59 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: bruoz

You would be in SEVERE danger from my dog.

She’d lick you to death before you could draw :-)


48 posted on 10/27/2017 2:31:30 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: w1n1; All

I found this in an old thread, posted by a now unknown Freeper and repost it occasionally when it fits a topic.

The “Center Mass” Myth and Ending a Gunfight

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-center-mass-myth-and-ending-a-gunfight-triggernometry/

“Lots of people stay in the fight after “center mass” hits, and some even win it... One, two or even several well placed “center mass” shots may not do what you think it will...”

The author,Jim Higginbotham, who has had decades of LEO experience makes the case that even in the case of lethal hits, the perp has enough time to fire back, and in many cases kill people who were waiting to see the effect of their initial hits on target.

As a civilian, I found this article to be a real eye opener, and while it may be old news to those of you in law enforcement or the military (thank you all for your service), I hope you will take the time to read this article. God forbid any of us should get into a gunfight, but this article could be a lifesaver someday.


49 posted on 10/27/2017 5:02:08 PM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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To: w1n1

If the bad guys get within 21 feet you are doing it wrong.


50 posted on 10/27/2017 5:05:27 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: w1n1

I try to stay 21 feet away from Everybody.


51 posted on 10/27/2017 5:14:55 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: central_va
If the bad guys get within 21 feet you are doing it wrong.

I shot about a 350 pound feral hog the other night that was a lot closer than that. About 10 feet when it finally dropped. It was charging and I hit it twice with a 223 round but not a kill shot. Third one was on target. I'm too old to run... and all I had was the gun and a green light flashlight. I sat down for a few minutes after that.... :)

52 posted on 10/27/2017 5:20:41 PM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
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To: Mercat

Soo.... fresh baked cookies in one hand and a 45 caliber in the other when people come to visit?

:)


53 posted on 10/27/2017 8:21:55 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: MileHi

Yeah I had the old duckbill choke and turning the gun so the pattern was vertical would clear a doorway or hallway quite nicely...... I want the new “Paradigm Gator” choke for my old Benelli M1 or maybe a new M4.......with the patterns shown you could almost aim it with a compass ...... Stay Safe !


54 posted on 10/28/2017 1:17:35 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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