Posted on 11/03/2017 9:48:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
If there were only a way to keep the monduls and backwards minded out of society......
A real space program instead of a welfare state would have brought all kinds of advances. Liberals would prefer everyone but them living in total squalor.
If you’re not paying for the service, you’re the product.
>By the same token, people have horses because they are a high-status thing to have. These so-called “horseless carriages” will never really catch on!
Talking with the historically ignorant is always fun.
>QUESTION: Just how big is the market for human servants? I mean, how many people today in America are working as actual domestics? And whom would you rather have cleaning your toilets, sorting your undies, or drawing your bath? A human servant (who might be secretly spitting into your food, inadvertently sneezing onto your bedsheets, unthinkingly picking his nose while he folds the napkins)? Or a gleaming android?
Me? I’d take a robot. However, as you mockingly noted the rich continued to ride horses despite them being outmoded because they’re expensive and high status. Human societies are built around status, not economic cheapness and ordering other people around will always be high status. Thus there will always be jobs either in serving the rich or in producing handcrafted items for them.
Read the diamond age for a primer on how this works.
Unnecessarily combative, I'd say.
However, as you mockingly noted the rich continued to ride horses despite them being outmoded because theyre expensive and high status.
The statement "The Rich continue riding horses..." is meaningless unless quantified.
The fact is that the automobile has grabbed almost all of the niches once occupied by the horse. Of course certain status-conscious people who can afford to do so still own a few pure-breds - but that has failed to compensate for the vast number of other people (and businesses) who once would have had no choice but to own (or rent) a horse, and who now no longer do so, because cars are cheaper, faster, etc. No one can deny that the number of horses alive today in America has decreased, largely due to the automobile.
Human societies are built around status, not economic cheapness [...]
Status-consciousness certainly plays a limited role - but hard economics has been the major driver in all societies since time began. Of course, it's possible that, in a post-scarcity society, time-honored rules and economic paradigms will change.
[...] and ordering other people around will always be high status. Thus there will always be jobs either in serving the rich or in producing handcrafted items for them.
That market will certainly exist - but it won't be large enough to compensate for the loss of meaningful, gainful employment on the part of 95% of the population.
Read the diamond age for a primer on how this works.
Thanks for the book recommendation - but I've already read it.
Nota bene: The above assertions are only that - I can't prove them. They are based only on commonsense and many years of thought on the subject.
Regards,
>Status-consciousness certainly plays a limited role - but hard economics has been the major driver in all societies since time began. Of course, it’s possible that, in a post-scarcity society, time-honored rules and economic paradigms will change.
That’s laughable. There’s never been a single human society driven by economics. The problem with human civilizations is making high-status behavior also useful for war and economic development. America solved this issue for a time by making hard work, getting rich and serving in the military high status. It’s not an accident that we’ve declined as status became getting the right degrees from the right schools and spouting leftist dogma.
You mean Sylvester Stallone?
It’s what is so bizarre, here Emperor Zero professed to be a big Star Trek fan and supposedly of NASA, too, and I at least thought he’d direct some of his massive spending on revitalizing NASA, instead he all but completely shut it down (well, we knew it was doomed the moment he deemed it to be a Mohammadan “outreach” program).
Funny.
Sussman is a dork. No wonder he’s no longer a weatherman.
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