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Just saw 'DARKEST HOUR". Go see it!

Posted on 12/24/2017 5:49:44 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET

Unlike "Dunkirk" it was ALL acting. Coming off the Trump victory the timing of it's release is interesting. Too many not-so-subtile similarities. He's gruff, his own party abandons him, his family keeps him going and he has to deal with a bunch of wusses who are too cowardly to see what's going on. He's alone and he get's his inspiration from the common people he meets on the subway. Theater was pretty much filled-matinee. Upon leaving I observed that most everyone was older.

BTW FDR was useless. Chamberlain still thought they could negotiate for peace.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: churchill; darkesthour; garyoldman; moviereview; movies; winstonchurchill
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1 posted on 12/24/2017 5:49:44 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Excellent. Oldman joins Day-Lewis, Bale in his ability to become another human.


2 posted on 12/24/2017 5:50:45 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Thanks, planning to see it!

I adore Gary Oldman but I have a hard time imagining him as Churchill. How did he do?


3 posted on 12/24/2017 5:52:00 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (A year in Arizona... and I haven't burst into flames yet.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Why bothet? Today’s Britons are not worthy of Sir Winston. They fought like hell to ‘repel the Hun,’ only to willingly permit the invasion of the Muslim savages who will be their undoing as a nation and a people.


4 posted on 12/24/2017 5:53:54 AM PST by montag813
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To: DIRTYSECRET

FDR was pretty much just a socialist political hack but the Greatest and Silent Generations idolized him. Most believe he saved them from the Great Depression when most historians have concluded that he prolonged it.

He did have the sense to get some good people on the Military side of the War though and let them run with it. Leahy and Marshall were two of the people he counted on. He did a lot of great things as a wartime leader because there was no other choice but at least he made a lot of right choices.


5 posted on 12/24/2017 5:56:50 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: montag813

Never knew how Churchill really was. I do remember the historical line “I’d drink it” referring to a supposed wife who would poison his coffee. There were plenty of funny moments so he musta been a character.


6 posted on 12/24/2017 5:57:53 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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There's talk about him being a contender for an Oscar.
7 posted on 12/24/2017 5:59:10 AM PST by grimalkin (You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible. - T. Sowell)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Let’s hope the nation does not reject Trump after he has pulled us back from the abyss that Barky had us in.

Churchill saved his nation and probably the world from the Axis and was rejected after that by the very nation he saved. Never did understand that. Never.


8 posted on 12/24/2017 5:59:23 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Read FDR’s executive orders for 12/8/41-1/7/42 and you will see a man totally in command.


9 posted on 12/24/2017 6:00:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: montag813

Your post is why.


10 posted on 12/24/2017 6:01:00 AM PST by Frapster (Bacon!)
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To: montag813
Winston Churchill commented on the 'dreadful curses of Mohammedanism' in his 1899 book 'The River Wars.'

I wish Oldman mentioned that in the movie.

11 posted on 12/24/2017 6:07:10 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’m also reading ‘American Caesar’, a novel about MacArthur. More similarities as well as flaws. In his MAGA campaign I’m sure Trump has every intention of joining this group. It will take all of his 8 years and he won’t be around long enough afterwards to bask in his glory or rest on his laurels-unlike Obama and BJ. They left the WH at a relatively young age and any thought of greatness is missing. At least Carter did humble carpentry work.


12 posted on 12/24/2017 6:07:44 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: montag813

You are 100% correct!

Winston Churchill 1899: “Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”


13 posted on 12/24/2017 6:08:02 AM PST by CalTexan
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Give it month... It will be available for free on the internet. I assumed Dunkirk was going to be good... It was terrible, but you can’t go wrong with Churchill.

The man went from the disaster of Gallipoli directly to trenches of Europe in WW1 to atone... Then he became the 20th century’s greatest political hero recognizing German National Socialism for the evil it was well before others did, and he proceeded to rally the British the free world to destroy it after the darkest hour came.

The greatest leader of the 20th century. PERIOD! (Reagan and Pope John Paul II come in tied for second place in my books when they jointly defeated communism.)


14 posted on 12/24/2017 6:10:54 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

We saw it Friday. There were a few WWII vets in the audience and they didn’t seem to have any criticisms of the movie. So nice to see a movie without special effects and grandiose background music. You had to pay attention, though, the dialogue went fast. I highly recommend it.


15 posted on 12/24/2017 6:13:23 AM PST by RightField
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To: Sequoyah101

FDR did one thing right.
He dumped Henry Wallace from his vp slot...


16 posted on 12/24/2017 6:13:50 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: JonPreston

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”


17 posted on 12/24/2017 6:13:55 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Sequoyah101

There was a book written post WWII named “The Road Ahead”, I believe. It was in my late Dad’s college books and warned about the forthcoming invasion of Socialism in the US.

It discussed how Socialism took over Britain after World War I and had immaculated it. It warned about socialists in the US, naming a Congressman, Hubert Humphrey as one of them.

After the Germans were defeated, the Brits turned out Churchill in favor of socialists promising free stuff.


18 posted on 12/24/2017 6:15:20 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Build Kate’s Wall! Never Forget!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Like they say, guess they just make fliks for millenials/bump-headers now.
*****
Watched one on TV last nite...Will Smith LAPD cop w/an Ork partner...lotsa Orks, Elves, Fairies and WTF???

Yeh, illenials must be a good clue to more and more strange el crappo out there.

But...I am a geezer!
;)
Real American!/NOT AINO!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


19 posted on 12/24/2017 6:16:29 AM PST by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Churchill was rejected after the war was done. Didn’t need him anymore. He musta been hated every step of the way but reluctantly accepted. On a smaller level it’s the same with Bush 41 after Kuwait. The people will never recognize the skill with witch he conducted the war and the diplomacy leading up to it. Same with managing Soviet nukes after the Berlin wall fell. They didn’t fall into the wrong hands. Remember the protests that came with Pershing missiles under Reagan? Turned out he did the right thing. A wartime leader may just be unnecessary in peacetime. The moral: No good deed goes unpunished.


20 posted on 12/24/2017 6:18:10 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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