Posted on 12/24/2017 5:49:44 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
Unlike "Dunkirk" it was ALL acting. Coming off the Trump victory the timing of it's release is interesting. Too many not-so-subtile similarities. He's gruff, his own party abandons him, his family keeps him going and he has to deal with a bunch of wusses who are too cowardly to see what's going on. He's alone and he get's his inspiration from the common people he meets on the subway. Theater was pretty much filled-matinee. Upon leaving I observed that most everyone was older.
BTW FDR was useless. Chamberlain still thought they could negotiate for peace.
Oh, I have no doubt of that at all and never said that he was not in command. I have read Leahy and Marshall as well and take from both of their writings that they answered to FDR but still had great latitude.
I wonder about the claims of how flat footed we were entering the war since I read that many had begun thinking about it and doing as much as they could to prepare way back in ‘38. It was clear the war drums were banging and getting louder from the mid-30s.
Happy Hubert Dad called him. Most politicians could get Dad fuming but Humphrey sent him to new levels disgust and condemnations of being a ______ _______ Communist _______ and then he would really get going.
Free stuff wins just about every time unless the sheeple can see they are in grave danger.
have now seen it 2x. at first i thought - hey, Gary Oldman is not Churchill(we’ve all seen him on old film). by the end of first viewing his grasp of Churchillian oratory had me in its grip. was saddened by the call to Roosevelt for obvious reasons. but heartened by the resolve of the Brits as i was with that amazing small boat fleet shot in “Dunkirk” (which i thought was fantastic).
Agreed! Darkest Hour was great and Gary Oldman was outstanding. Now I want to know everything abt Winston Churchill. I highly reccommend it - worth the money absolutely.
Bush 41? I wouldn’t be so quick to compare him to anybody actually great in history however large or small. He was a 1 term president who got elected and then squandered the good will of the American Voter.
His quote “No new taxes” will be remember in history for the next 200 years. Compare this to Churchill’s “We shall fight them in ....”.
The only thing that links the two together is both marked the decline of their respective nations.
A novel?
Was nonfiction, I believe. I could be wrong.
Lady Astor said to Churchill at a party, “Winston, you are drunk.” To which Winston replied “Yes Lady Astor I am drunk, but you are ugly. However in the morning I will be indisputably sober, and you’ll still be ugly.”
To get a sense of Churchill from his formative days in the British Army, I highly recommend reading Churchill’s war correspondent accounts of wars with Muslims. They both should have been immediate post-9/11 required reading for all officers and NCOs in the armed forces, all Foreign Service involved with the Middle East, and all intelligence agency leadership.
They’re both quick reads, as they originated as serial dispatches from the front. Free at Project Gutenberg, read them on your tablet, phone, or computer. Or go dead trees and print them out, heck, I’m OK with that!
The Story of the Malakand Field Force: An Episode of Frontier War
by Winston Churchill
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9404
The River War: An Account of the Reconquest of the Sudan
by Winston Churchill
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4943
“FDR was pretty much just a socialist political hack but the Greatest and Silent Generations idolized him.”
Well, my Dad (a WWII bomber pilot) didn’t, and for just that reason.
If everyone was older, does that mean it’s a really loooong movie?
:-)
Merry Christmas!
“Churchill saved his nation and probably the world from the Axis and was rejected after that by the very nation he saved. Never did understand that. Never.”
The Brits were — and are — socialists, and Churchill was not. The Brits wanted him during the war, but not afterwards (though he did become PM again in the 1950s, but not for long).
I think you meant “emasculated.”
Neither did my Dad, a WWII Navy fighter pilot. I guess that is where I got my lead to an independent point of view from what we were taught in school.
From the history we were taught you would conclude that everyone agreed with everything FDR said and did. What they agreed with was winning the war.
Looking forward to seeing ‘ Darkest Hour ‘ but I really enjoyed Dunkirk.
Excellent film!
Really enjoyed it, but wish there had been subtitles. I had a really hard time understanding the dialogue at times and I’m not hard of hearing.
Glass-Steagall was a bipartisan piece of legislation that came very early in FDR’s first term. It was a very good piece of work. It is considered part of FDR’s legacy but really it was crafted in the latter part of the Hoover years.
So not everything that is part of FDR’s legacy is bad.
Candidate Trump said he will work to bring back some form of Glass-Steagall. When it comes back, don’t be too quick to judge it as originally owned by FDR. It was a good and needed reform of the banking system and something like it is needed today.
Yes, they still are mostly socialists and I have never understood that either.
Churchill certainly was not a socialist though. He was almost like Patton who wanted to go ahead and take care of the communists while we were well mobilized.
In our history lessons we sort of glossed over just how much the socialists had burrowed into the United States after the turn of the last century. Another chapter to direct more study to.
If there are no Spits or He-111's at all then I'm not going.
Churchill as the saviour of Britain, who immediately rejected him in an election 2 months after VE Day. After the war Britain descended into economic malaise which was only briefly interrupted by Thatcher. Still far too many multi-generational welfare families living in public housing with a belief only in beer and football. The elites are immoral or amoral, and have no intention of preserving Britain’s “Britishness” from the foreign hordes that they are still permitting to swarm their borders.
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