Skip to comments.Fearing the FBI (Saturbray)
Posted on 01/20/2018 7:57:19 AM PST by bray
My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. James 1:2-3
Every Repub and Liberaltarian should be completely outraged the FBI and intelligence agencies were working with the DNC and the Clinton campaign to spy on Candidate Trump campaign. This has been the greatest fear of every freedom loving American since J Edgar Hoover designed these agencies that they would spy on American citizens let alone campaigns. To have them corrupted to the point they would try to influence a free and fair Presidential election is the greatest fear any true American could ever have.
There are few things which rise to the level of actual treason and this is one due to what it does to the validity of the vote. Whoever was the head of this operation should be put in front of a firing squad and made an example. It should not be prison time or death by injection or electric chair, it needs to be a firing squad to let these people understand what they are entrusted to do. To compare this to Watergate is a farce since Nixon never used actual agencies and is really questionable anything illegal was actually done while this one has serious laws being broken by some of the most powerful agencies in the world with the intent of influencing a Presidential election.
When the FBI scandal was first being exposed some of us were suspecting it was bigger than any of the fake news distorters were letting on. Now we are finding there was a cabal formed similar to what you normally see in Nicaragua or Thailand inside the gummit to make sure certain their candidate would win. This cabal paid for the fake dossier saying Donald Trump as a private citizen visited Russia and paid hookers to pee on a bed because Obama had slept in it a couple years earlier. Never mind that President Trump is a germ-o-phoebe or that he was not there at the time, the Russians were going to blackmail him for this and needed to be investigated further.
This dossier was then delivered to the FBI by John McCain to give it an heir of credibility even though the FBI and the Hillary campaign paid millions to have it produced. McCain may have been part of the cabal or a willing dupe, although it is very likely not exactly innocent since he has a burning hatred for Trump who dared question his heroism in the Hanoi Hilton. At this point they have broken laws with a campaign being helped by the FBI and government agencies and people need to be jailed, but then they take it to a whole different level which is beyond belief in a truly free country.
The dossier was then leaked to the press, most likely through FBI Director Comey. It was also being used by the cabal to issue a FISA warrant to be able to spy on the Trump campaign for being blackmailed by the Russians. Everyone except the judge knew this dossier was false and they lied to the judge into believing it was real and she issued search warrants to tap some or all of the Trump campaign phones and then passed that information on to the White House and the Clinton campaign. It is very likely every phone and computer in the Trump campaign was tapped and all of that information was passed to the Clinton Campaign to help her win the election. This truly was a miraculous win and God giving America one more chance.
For all those Social Justice Warriors, how fair is it to have the entire FBI, NSA and the rest of the Federal gummit trying to influence an election for Hillary Clinton? You are all bent out of shape because the Russians supposedly talked to the Trump campaign and put a few thousand posts on Facebook yet you have no problem with the entire Intelligence complex of the United States trying to determine the outcome of that same election for your candidate? This is the largest abuse of power we have seen in the histoir of America and someone needs to pay for it.
We have understood the Establishmedia is absolutely corrupt to the point of comical and that the DNC is rigged from top to bottom as well as the District of Corruption is a swamp, but you cannot have the Justice Department taking sides to influence free and open elections, this cannot stand. This is the same tactics which are used in the Soviet Union under Stalin, Cuba with Castro or Iraq and Hussain it is not supposed to occur in America. This is not pie in the sky rainbow glasses this is an absolute there is not supposed to be campaigning by the spy agencies since the advantages they have are obvious. In this case they were very likely passing on Trump strategies to the Clinton campaign and she was using them to damage Trump. She was passing things to the press and they dutifully used it to hurt his campaign. One such item was the Russian collusion story which was passed directly from the FBI to her although she also made up the dossier which was leaked right before the vote.
The fourth amendment in the Constitution gives every American the Right to Privacy from the gummit and especially in elections. This is not a suggestion it is a guarantee and is supposed to be taken absolutely seriously by these agencies for them to exist without fear of American citizens. Because the Obama regime used communist tactics and broke down those walls either Obama ordered this or it was inferred to be ok to break these laws in the attempt to win a turd election to hide his criminal activities.
Whitewater was about breaking the Fourth Amendment and spying on a rival candidate by tapping their phones. It was not done by the FBI but campaign operatives who were most likely attempting to get an incriminating piece of information on Deans wife, but who knows. This is using the most sophisticated spying apparatus ever developed to influence the outcome of a vote for the President of the United States. For this heads should roll and is the biggest scandal this country has ever had. Tom Clancy would have a hard time coming up with this size scandal.
There needs to be indictments on the principles that have obviously broken the law let alone their pledges and work up the chain of command to find out who was at the top of it. We can guess it was Barak since it resembles his other abuses such as the IRS, but we have to give him the benefit of the doubt until it is all exposed. The most important thing right now is to find who is guilty of this treason and made a harsh example. There is nothing worse morally than a dirty cop except a dirty FBI agent and that agent has to be made an example to make sure this never occurs again in America. This is the Shining City on a Hill because this does not happen here.
Fifty years ago every one of these conspirators would have been given a fair trial and then offered a blindfold and cigarette in front of a pock-filled wall. These traitors deserve the same. Mr. President, what did you know and when did you know it?
Pray America woke
If this doesn’t break it wide open there is no rule of law. People will pay, one way or another.
Oh, and make sure the others watch as their turn comes closer and closer.
“Every Repub and Liberaltarian should be completely outraged the FBI and intelligence agencies were working with the DNC and the Clinton campaign to spy on Candidate Trump campaign. “
Randy Weaver and Waco survivors could add a few other things to be outraged about.
Divers temptations eh. (Yes I know it’s KJV for diverse, still it’s an accidental droll pun for what’s happening here. As in, divers diving into the mud.)
God’s shakin’ it up.
When human law fails, people bump into celestial law.
If the treasonous crimes of the Deep State and their coup attempt against Donald Trump are not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, this country is done.
And all of the BLM abusees over the last decade.
Agreed, I am too soft hearted.
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
So, it's not treason.
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
Hmmmm. Could be.
If sinners don’t get caught up by men, they get caught up by God.
Our system is in such ludicrous disarray, what with our supposedly most honored law enforcement agencies sold out to political agendas, that maybe it’s the better thing that it’s letting people go. The alternative would be Stalinesque purges. Better to do nothing, than to do more harm.
Why does the Feds own the land in the first place? It was never the intent of the founders for DC to own half the land.
“But what if they passed a law and nobody cared any more.”
Doubtless the vision that was sold here was one of kindly stewards, of Smokey-the-Bears.
What actually evolved was some pretty arrant venality.
Thanks for the ping.
I dont get the outrage. This sort of stuff has been going on since, at least, the cointelpro days.
Amoral, spiritually dead people will elect amoral, spiritually dead politicians who will in turn do amoral, spiritually dead things. And yet we think were going to fix this by electing a particular flavor of politician?
Politics is a scam and were suckers for playing.
You are probably right about that.
People, en masse, have largely forgotten God, and without that consciousness, people will be narrowly and selfishly venal. Efforts to do the longsighted, honorable thing will simply get hooted at and disregarded at best.
What can the would-be righteous do? The only answer I can see is to spread more consciousness of God. Because the American system wasn’t built to work around any other kind of consciousness.
The vision of America which that kind of law was intended to support, is almost gone.
Now our dear illiberal “liberals” want America to be a no-man’s-land.
That can’t even keep up liberality, which I wish our dear illiberal “liberals” would begin to understand before too late. The store can voluntarily give out a lot of stuff, but as soon as it is overrun by thieves, it won’t be able to turn a profit from which it can give anything else out. It will be plundered bare. It will cease to operate. Venezuela is finding this out the hard way.
Amen, the Constitution assumed Christian belief. It was never meant to have to be enforced by law enforcement, but by individual morality which no longer exists.
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