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Mandalay Bay Revolver was a Smith & Wesson 342 Airlite Ti
Gun Watch ^ | 3 March, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 03/02/2018 11:25:59 AM PST by marktwain



In one of the leaked photographs from the Mandalay Bay shooter's suite, there is a revolver that he apparently committed suicide with.

From page 30 of the January 18, 2018,  initial report of the lvmpd.com:

Team 2 encountered Paddock lying on the floor on his back. A small frame revolver was observed on the ground above Paddock’s head. Apparent blood was located on the revolver and a pool of blood had formed around Paddocks head. The officers believed Paddock had a self-inflicted gunshot wound. The large window at Paddock’s feet was broken out and the curtain was blowing into the room. On the floor next to the Paddock’s feet was a small sledge hammer and Paddock was laying on top of a rifle. The officers also observed several more rifles, spent ammunition throughout the living area, and several loaded magazines. 
 From page 39 of 81
 Decedent Stephen Paddock

Paddock was on the floor south of the chair and side table. He was wearing black pants, a long sleeve brown shirt, black gloves, and grey shoes. Paddock was on his back with his head to the south, feet to the north, and arms at his sides. There was apparent blood surrounding his nose and mouth, and on the floor under his head. There was also apparent blood on the front of his shirt. A rifle was on the floor under his legs. A grey box cutter was on the floor between his feet. There were casings on the floor surrounding him. A silver/black colored "Smith & Wesson" revolver with apparent blood on it was on the floor south of Paddock's head.

The revolver is a Smith & Wesson 342 AirLite Ti, one of the lightest .38 Special +P rated revolvers commonly in use. It has substantial recoil because of its light weight. The grips, aluminum frame, front sight and dull gray Titanium cylinder give it a distinctive appearance.  It is very similar to the 340 SC, but the grips are different. The report cited above confirms the model of the revolver on page 42:
Smith & Wesson 342 AirLite Ti CDZ7618 .38 caliber revolver with 4 cartridges, 1 expended cartridge case.



Link to graphic photo of dead shooter. You have been warned

The report has a number if informative pictures, but none showing the shooter's body or the revolver. The report does not identify the remaining cartridges, or say if the empty case is and projectile found in the shooter's body are consistent with the unfired cartridges.

Presumably, a final report will eventually become available. Some questions for the final report to offer hypothesis on are:

What mechanism resulted in the trail of blood spots from the pool of blood under the shooters head to the revolver?

How did the revolver come to be positioned about 16 - 20 inches (as estimated from the .223 cases lying on the carpet) south of the shooter's head?

How did the shooter come to be laying flat on his back with arms straight and hands close to his sides?

How did the blood from the shooter's head seem to follow two separate paths and result in two blood pools that are connected, but seem from different temporal events, as if the body had been moved a small amount?

One Internet observer claimed that in the picture, there was a spent round lying on top if the revolver. Close examination of the picture indicates that was an optical illusion from the shape of the lower frame of the revolver. The close up shows there is no spent round on top of the revolver.

Pure speculation: the shooter was lying down on his back, with the rifle over his feet, when he fired the suicide shot with the revolver in his mouth. Recoil took his hand and the revolver to the South, then muscle convulsions brought the hand back along his side. The different blood flows occurred when the blood flow began from the left nostril, was internally blocked, then continued from the mouth.

This timeline, from the initial Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Report is interesting:

Armed security from the Mandalay Bay reached the 32nd floor about 22:12.

The firing stopped about 22:16.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officers reached the 32nd floor, where the shooter was, about 22:56.

They breached the door to suite 32-135 about 23:20.

That was about an hour after the shooting stopped.

https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf



©2018 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: lasvegas; mandalaybay; massmurder; nevada
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Head shots often result in convulsions and considerable movement.
1 posted on 03/02/2018 11:26:00 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

And they bleed profusely.

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2 posted on 03/02/2018 11:27:24 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: marktwain

From the extremely graphic picture at the link, he ate the barrel.


3 posted on 03/02/2018 11:31:51 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: marktwain

What was his motive? What was his tie to “fast and furious” mexican gun running? Was he an agent of the DOJ? Was he fired when Trump was elected. Did he retaliate for that?


4 posted on 03/02/2018 11:32:52 AM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: marktwain

>>Airlite Ti<<

OMG!! Shudder!

Do you realize the word “Airlite” has “AR” in it??? Clearly an Assault Rifle name (even if it is a pistol)!!!

BAN THEM!! BAN THEM BEFORE THEY SHOOT SOMEONE ELSE!!!!


5 posted on 03/02/2018 11:33:12 AM PST by freedumb2003 (obozo took 8 years to try to destroy us. Trump took 1 to rebuild us. MAGA!!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Why isn’t the pistol still in his hand similar to Vince Foster. /s


6 posted on 03/02/2018 11:35:47 AM PST by shotgun
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To: freedumb2003

It’s a decent gun though.

The Las Vegas shooter had decent taste. While it seems like a schmuck thing for me to say, we all know that the selection of firearms means a LOT. It tells us more about the user than many other investigative breadcrumbs.


7 posted on 03/02/2018 11:49:56 AM PST by Celerity
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What was his motive?


Fame/celebrity, most likely, as with most rampage shooters.

They decide to commit suicide, and want to go out with their name in the “record books”.

Mass murder is one of the ways the media has assured that suicides can go out with their name forever recorded as a celebrity.


8 posted on 03/02/2018 11:54:59 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I don’t believe anything the guvmint is saying on this or Parkland

These incidents all smell of CIA OR MKULTRA PLOTS

notice how they happen every 3-4 months ?

A well armed society is a polite society


9 posted on 03/02/2018 12:08:47 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: marktwain
Interesting! I checked out that "Graphic Photo" -- and, it looked just like the Ft. Marcy Park photo of Vince Foster who also "shot himself in the mouth with a .38"! [<,SARCASM!!>]

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10 posted on 03/02/2018 12:10:04 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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To: marktwain

I assure you, that was NOT his motive. Not even close.


11 posted on 03/02/2018 12:43:20 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall" DJT)
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Why not?

It seems a perfectly believable motive.

There are numerous examples of people with that motive.

He rejected ordinary morality, that seems certain.


12 posted on 03/02/2018 1:07:39 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I had an ultra lightweight S&W .38 Special +P revolver. Stung like hell with +P rounds. Sold it.


13 posted on 03/02/2018 1:09:30 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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Yes, they recoil quite sharply.

As an instructor, I saw husbands giving their wives this sort of revolver. They flinched terribly.

I had them shoot a Colt Woodsman in .22 LR.

They followed instructions and shot nice little groups at five yards.

Made an enormous difference in their attitude about shooting, and in their confidence.


14 posted on 03/02/2018 1:26:45 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Suicided?


15 posted on 03/02/2018 2:26:39 PM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: marktwain

First time I’d seen that image.

I’d love an explanation for how the revolver ended up there from recoil...


16 posted on 03/02/2018 2:38:45 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: marktwain

We need to ban full auto revolvers!/s


17 posted on 03/02/2018 2:53:14 PM PST by dynachrome (When an empire dies, you are left with vast monuments in front of which peasants squat to defecate)
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To: logi_cal869

Lots of movement possible after a head shot.

I have seen many animals flop around after being shot in the head.


18 posted on 03/02/2018 3:01:44 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

He was way too dark to even contemplate morality. He had converted to Mohammedanism and had ties with a supplier of weapons with top secret clearance at DOJ. We are not being told the truth. NOTHING takes this long.


19 posted on 03/02/2018 5:45:39 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall" DJT)
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To: Yo-Yo

I’ll take your word for it.


20 posted on 03/02/2018 5:47:55 PM PST by OKSooner (Joan Rivers, RIP)
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